UFC 156 Results Recap: Jose Aldo retains Featherweight title in close match with Frankie Edgar

UFC 156 is in the books and the event delivered in many diverse ways for MMA fans worldwide. Featherweight champion Jose Aldo and Frankie Edgar fought in a back-and-forth war which ultimately saw Aldo retain his title. It appeared that Edgar may have held the edge in Octagon control and wrestling, however Aldo was the fighter who landed the most powerful shots. His trademark leg kicks found home with ruthless power and accuracy. He showed little to no damage on his face at the end of the bout, while Edgar had his usual black eye and bloodied face to show for his efforts. It was a surprise to some that two judges scored the bout 49-46, but nonetheless, Aldo retains his title while Edgar must once again return to the drawing board.

Main Card (Live on PPV, 10:00 PM)
Preliminary Card (Live on FX, 8:00 PM ET)
-Bobby Green defeated Jacob Volkmann by Submission (RNC, 3rd Round, 4:25)
-Isaac Vallie-Flagg defeated Yves Edwards by Split Decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)
Preliminary Card (Live on Facebook or Internet 7:10 PM)
-Francisco Rivera defeatd Edwin Figueroa by TKO (Strikes, Round 2, 4:20)

In the co-main, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira won a decision over the heavily favored Rashad Evans. No one gave Nogueira much of a chance, but he utilized crisp boxing technique to keep the wrestling of Rashad Evans at bay. Evans did not seem to be himself tonight, and looked sluggish and inactive for him. A great win for Lil Nog, who silences his critics and may suddenly be a player in the Light Heavyweight division.

Alistair Overeem and Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva went into their Heavyweight bout with much bad blood between them after a heated exchange at the staredowns. The heavily favored Overeem, returning from a steroids suspension, appeared cocky early on by leaving his hands completely down by his sides. None of the fighters did much during the first rounds, but in the third the underdog Silva found a home for his heavy hands. Scoring a series of brutal and well-placed shots, he continued to batter Overeem until the former Strikeforce champ was obviously knocked out, slumping to the cage floor. It’s tough to say what will be next for each fighter, but the loss is absolutely devastating to the title hopes of Overeem.

Demain Maia made a loud statement at Welterweight as he absolutely dominated Jon Fitch on the ground. Known for his excellent BJJ defense, Fitch was able to fend off many choke attempts. But he was never able to pull off one of his trademark reversals, and never got his ground-and-pound going effectively. Maia, who stayed quite active by taking Fitch’s back early and often, was never in any degree of danger and looks to rise to the top of the ultra-stacked Welterweight division.

At Flyweight, Joseph Benavidez was able to take home a close decision victory over Ian McCall. The bout saw both fighters land a ton of shots but ultimately the Team Alpha Male product was the victor.

UFC 156 Full Results: 

Main Card:

Jose Aldo def. Frankie Edgar via Unanimous Decision

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira def. Rahad Evans via Unanimous Decision

Antonio Silva def. Alistair Overeem via R3 KO (Punches)

Demian Maia def. Jon Fitch via Unanimous Decision

Joseph Benavidez def. Ian McCall via Unanimous Decision

Preliminary Card:

Evan Dunham def. Gleison Tiba via Unanimous Decision

Tyron Woodley def. Jay Hieron via R1 KO (Punches)

Bobby Green def. Jacob Volkmann via R3 Submission (Rear naked Choke)

Isaac Vallie-Flagg def. Yves Edwards via Split Decision 

Francisco Rivera def. Edwin Figueroa via R2 TKO (Strikes)

Dustin Kimura def. Chico Camus via R3 Submission (Rear naked Choke)

LowKick MMA Fight Night Awards: 

Performance of the Night: It’s tough to deny Jose Aldo the nod here, as he bested former Lightweight champion Frankie Edgar in a very close match. Aldo showed a ton of grit and excellent Muay Thai to pepper the always game Edgar. Demain Maia gets a close second for his ground clinic on the ultra-tough Jon Fitch.

Finish of the Night: This award can go to none other than Bigfoot Silva, who beat a highly favored Alistair Overeem with an absolutely brutal series of punches in the third. Overeem had no respect for Bigfoot’s hands, and paid the ultimate price.

Upset of the Night: Antonio Rogerio Nogueira gets the nod, as he beat a fighter in Rashad Evans that many ranked as the number two Light Heavyweight in the world. He stifled all aspects of Evans’ gameplan and got one of the biggest wins of his career.


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    highkick12

    February 3, 2013 at 1:46 am

    Frankie is like a real life Rocky. And I cant help but cheer for him.
    He made it really close taking the 2nd half of the fight but Aldo definitely beat him with more damage.

    If Anderson needs to move up than you cant say that Aldo doesn't.

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    highkick12

    February 3, 2013 at 1:47 am

    Anyone else love watching Rashad lose and Fitch get exactly what he deserved?

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      rabble

      February 3, 2013 at 1:59 am

      Let's not ignore the fact that Fitch put on an awesome Fight Of The Night performance just a few months ago.

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        NuclearSun

        February 3, 2013 at 3:37 am

        Only cause he was fighting Erick Silva.

        We didn't see much of that same Fitch tonight did we?? Fluke.

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        falcon4917

        February 3, 2013 at 8:32 am

        I agree, Fitch is still a beast. People don't realize how well Fitch did last night considering the dominant positions of Maia. Others in the division didn't even come close to Fitch in their fights with Maia. Maia is a new fighter in the division and Fitch may do better than anyone else against him. How does the 5 time BJJ champ(probably the best BJJ fighter in UFC) not get a sub with 15 minutes on someones back? Credit Fitch. It is likely Fitch did not expect the strength of Maia in this weight class. Maia did very well to do that to Fitch as nobody has done that to him.

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    Bryan Fontez

    February 3, 2013 at 1:51 am

    Couple things…

    #1 Overeem = Overrated (I guess the inside tips he received had something to do with getting his ass handed to him)

    #2 Frankie got screwed… AGAIN. I had Frankie winning 4 rounds to 1 (though a couple were very close)

    #3 Nogueira/Evans matchup made no sense to begin with, even if Evans won he wouldn't be gaining anything really unless it was via stoppage. And now what? The UFC just ruined one of their greatest PPV draws on a shitty match up.

    #4 Demian Maia is for REALS. Dominated a guy with grappling and showed some super improved wrestling/takedowns. Would love to see a Maia/GSP fight in the future.

    Thoughts??

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      grapplure

      February 3, 2013 at 1:53 am

      @ fontez

      4 to 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! check out fightmetric

      you need to stop listening to rogan

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      MereDictum

      February 3, 2013 at 1:58 am

      Bryan, put the bong down. Frankie did not get robbed, not even close. Forget the stats, look at their faces and stop listening to Rogan and open your eyes next time. And Frankie once again acts like a baby and claims he won. Douche.

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      azzkika

      February 3, 2013 at 2:00 am

      I wouldn't say Frankie got screwed. It was another close affair. The judges awarding 48-46 need shooting or dropping off a cliff along with OMCP, but in close affairs like that they can go either way. Edgar won the last 3 rounds Aldo the first 2. But they both fought brilliantly.

      Now if it was Condit running backwards like Aldo was a lot of the time everyone would be saying he was running but the haters are blind when the fighters they clingon to do similar strategies. Aldo done a lot of running in tht fight if you care to rewatch it. I don't mind that though, it's smart defense. I've never understood the mentality that expects a fighter to stand there and get hit, but just thought I'd point it out to the hypocrite idiots.
      I have a feeling these two will meet again sometime as they are two of the best fighters on the planet.

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      UnderdogGreatness

      February 3, 2013 at 2:05 am

      #2 What? What fight were you watching?

      #4 The WW division may have found its new Champ.

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      pound4pound

      February 3, 2013 at 2:15 am

      Bryan you are obviously blind by the affection you secretly have for Edgar, Edgar needs to learn as quick as he can that this is not amateur boxing but MMA, Edgar landed a few good shots and a bunch of weak ass punches while Aldo was completely rearranging Edgar's face round 3 and 5 were close but Aldo was landing the powerful punches while Edgar was only trying to score points, Edgar's takedowns led to nothing and most of them were stuffed by Aldo, Aldo is a superior fighter and Frankie is stuck in his style that has cost him decision after decision.

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        Evan Holober

        February 3, 2013 at 2:17 am

        Aldo wasn't landing powerful punches in the 5th. He was landing, but his shots had much less steam by that point.

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          pound4pound

          February 3, 2013 at 3:12 am

          And still were harder punches than Edgar punches is easy to go into the later rounds when you don't put power on your punches, Edgar's game plan was to outpoint Aldo in the last round and get a razor close decision, Aldo was in there to hurt Edgar from the beginning, first 2 rounds were devastation from Aldo to Edgar, 3 round was fairly close but the front kick should be the difference the same way the slam was the difference on the 4th round, 5th round was close again but the best punches came from Aldo and Edgar was trying to outpoint him, If you look the whole fight it wasn't even close and Edgar's face is the evidence, Aldo was superior in every aspect.

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            Evan Holober

            February 3, 2013 at 5:40 am

            "3 round was fairly close but the front kick should be the difference the same way the slam was the difference on the 4th round,"

            The slam wasn't the difference in the 4th. The fact Frankie outlanded Aldo at a 4-1 clip in the round is.

            "Edgar's game plan was to outpoint Aldo in the last round and get a razor close decision, Aldo was in there to hurt Edgar from the beginning,"

            He was trying to win the fight by any way possible. His work rate is the way he tires fighters out normally, and picks it up late. He also knew he was down from the beating he took early. Aldo was also "outpointing" Frankie at the end of the fight.

            The thought that Frankie just tries to win a "close decision" everytime he fights is the most idiotic nonsense from MMA fans. Ask BJ Penn and Gray Maynard if that's all he does.

            "5th round was close again but the best punches came from Aldo and Edgar was trying to outpoint him"

            Wrong. The best face punches came from Aldo. The best body shots, and kicks came from Frankie (which was a smart change in plan from Aldo to help in his TDD). These aren't just pointing shots, these were hard/flush shots that outdid Aldo in the round. Aldo's shots were harder, but they were less.

            "If you look the whole fight it wasn't even close and Edgar's face is the evidence, Aldo was superior in every aspect."

            If you look at the whole fight you see Aldo dominate early, and Frankie's work rate catch up with him. You see a very close fight over the last three rounds where Jose did enough to win the third, and hold off Frankie for a close decision. Far from superior in every aspect.

            This is 2013. Using the old "face as evidence" line should be extinct by now.

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            pound4pound

            February 3, 2013 at 11:00 am

            How in hell is 7 punches to 11 a 4 to 1 difference?, Aldo had the significant strikes in every round, like I said before this is MMA not amateur boxing where you get a point for every punch you connect, effective striking should be judged in the damage your strikes are causing on your opponent, and if you ask me Frankie striking was pretty useless in this fight as Aldo kept moving, Frankie landed a few solid punches but all the rest had no power what so ever, Evan this is a fight if damaged obviously inflected on one person's face shouldn't be considered in the decision then fighters should just try to touch his opponent as much as they can without really caring if they do damage or not.

            Don't even try to compare Frankie's kicks to Aldo's it just does not even make sense.

            Frankie has been relying in his cardio and his point point fighting to win, judges haven't been consistent with the way the judge fights I will give you that, but if you ask me, this is the way fights should be judge in MMA where the amount of punches landed will only take you so far if your opponent is hitting you with harder punches that you do.

            A while ago I said that Frankie is stubborn and that he does not learn from his mistakes, out of 7 title fights he has won just 1 decisively, all the rest there is always someone doubting the winner or a fighter feeling he got robbed, last 3 of his fights he has got the short end of the stick, maybe he should be coming out trying to finish the fight since round one and looking to land hard punches not only a big amount of weak ones, obviously the judges do not want to see him doing what he does anymore and having people doubting their decisions because of Edgar's style.

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            Evan Holober

            February 3, 2013 at 1:38 pm

            That was supposed 2-1. Not 4-1 my fault. Frankie outstruck him 14-7 in the round. He doubled him up, and had 4 more significant strikes.

            "Aldo had the significant strikes in every round,"

            Except in rounds 3,4, and 5 when he landed less significant strikes.

            "like I said before this is MMA not amateur boxing where you get a point for every punch you connect, "

            Which made no sense the first time you said it, so you posting it again makes even less sense.

            "effective striking should be judged in the damage your strikes are causing on your opponent"

            It is, and the shots Jose landed in the fifth were much closer to what Frankie landed than whatever he landed earlier in the fight.

            "if you ask me Frankie striking was pretty useless in this fight as Aldo kept moving,"

            So, Frankie keeps moving but the marks on his face means Jose was trying to end things but Jose isn't as marked up Frankie was just point fighting? You sure you wanna sound that hypocritical?

            "Evan this is a fight if damaged obviously inflected on one person's face shouldn't be considered in the decision"

            No it shouldn't. Jose and Frankie's performance over the entire fight factor in to the decision. Frankie being marked up, for about the 75th fight in a row, shouldn't factor in.

            "then fighters should just try to touch his opponent as much as they can without really caring if they do damage or not."

            That wasn't what Frankie was doing with his kicks or his punches. He just doesn't have as much natural power as Jose.

            "Don't even try to compare Frankie's kicks to Aldo's it just does not even make sense"

            I can't compare both's kicks in the 5th as Jose landed none. Nobody is comparing each's kicks over the whole fight. Again, just so you remember the discussion, were talking about the rounds in which Frankie came on strong. Not the first two where Aldo was clearly dominant.

            "Frankie has been relying in his cardio and his point point fighting to win, judges haven't been consistent with the way the judge fights I will give you that, but if you ask me, this is the way fights should be judge in MMA where the amount of punches landed will only take you so far if your opponent is hitting you with harder punches that you do."

            Again, the discussion is the performance over the last three rounds in a scoring perspective. A short diatribe on Frankie's imaginary point fighting isn't relevant.

            "A while ago I said that Frankie is stubborn and that he does not learn from his mistakes,"

            He hasn't made any mistakes from a style, training, or performance perspective. He was outdone by Ben and Aldo, two great fighters, and got screwed by judging against Ben in the other fight (over his last three).

            "last 3 of his fights he has got the short end of the stick, maybe he should be coming out trying to finish the fight since round one and looking to land hard punches not only a big amount of weak ones, "

            He only got the short end of the stick in one of those fights. The other two he was out fought in (in two great fights against two great fighters). It's not his game to come out guns blazing. Just like Juan Manuel Marquez (before his, transformation ahem*), Dominick Cruz, Abner Mares, Giorgio Petrosyan, or any other great fighter that uses work rate and attrition to beat their opponents. He shouldn't ever come out wild, or looking to KO people because he simply doesn't have much power. His best option is to try and out work people, and sometimes its just not enough.

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            Entity

            February 3, 2013 at 4:40 pm

            Holy crap Evan give your fingers a rest, it's not that important lmao

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            falcon4917

            February 3, 2013 at 8:42 am

            I would say Aldo was superior in every aspect but stamina. If we go by how they fight fresh as in R1 and R2 we can CLEARLY see a dominant fighter in Aldo. Aldo was faster, more accurate, stronger, more dynamic, creative and effective. Aldo is a better fighter by far but is let down by late round cardio in which his skillset is lowered to a level Frankie can handle. I think Aldo should have went guns blazing in R1 and R2 and he would have finished Edgar. He was too concerned that Edgar might survive to really do what he does best and that is destroy quickly. Frankie was not robbed either. Frankie is a better athlete, but not the same league of fighting skills.

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            Evan Holober

            February 3, 2013 at 1:47 pm

            He was clearly faster in rounds 1 and 2. When that speed diminished they were clearly on an equal playing field that saw Frankie landing more, and Aldo landing harder. You could just as easily say that they are equal in every single thing except stamina, and speed. Besides the obvious fact that they basically never went to the ground so we never go to see who was better there.

            The fight was extremely close, so its more than obvious they are in the same league.

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            falcon4917

            February 3, 2013 at 4:30 pm

            accidently weaked you, meant to cool you. I feel slightly different but we both agree fresh it's aldo, worn its edgar.

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            Evan Holober

            February 4, 2013 at 2:35 am

            Entity- Never!

            Falcon- Completely agree.

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        grapplure

        February 3, 2013 at 2:18 am

        i agree if frankie wants to win fights he has to switch his style

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      enjoylife321

      February 3, 2013 at 2:24 am

      @Bryan….Considering GSP's dominance on the mat, Maia would definetly be a great test…

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      dropkickmurphy

      February 3, 2013 at 9:56 pm

      Maia handling Fitch in the wrestling department the way he did makes this Cat one of the scariest guys at welterweight. And Fitch is unsubmittable.

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    daigoro702

    February 3, 2013 at 1:51 am

    Aldo was never in any danger if you ask me, I'll give Edgar an edge in the last two rounds just for staying active, but the first 3 were Aldo all the way, shit the first 2 were total domination by Aldo. I try to like Edgar, but Dana and rogan shove him so deep down our throats that it makes me hate on him, he's a good fighter but also is just another level and this is not even a controversial fight so don't start shit, great heart, great cardio and great foot work…but not a winner. If you sit there am listen to now rogan comment the fight he put doubts in your mind be wise he's a in your face with his one sides views and agendas, I suggest u watch the fights in mute. Overeem and rashad got what they deserved for underestimating their opponents.

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    godsofwararise

    February 3, 2013 at 1:56 am

    Edgar and Aldo are both awesome, I think Aldo was just a little bit better especially early on. I'd like to see Frankie win a few fights and have a rematch down the line, till then Pettis-Aldo sounds absolutely awesome.

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    Evan Holober

    February 3, 2013 at 1:57 am

    7 rounds are needed for title fights. If boxing can do 36 minutes, MMA can at least do 35.

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      rabble

      February 3, 2013 at 2:08 am

      I think that longer fights would lead to more boring fights. The fighters would be more reserved in fear of gassing out in the later rounds, and we wouldn't see as much high-octane action.

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        Evan Holober

        February 3, 2013 at 2:13 am

        Or the guys like Frankie would have more of a chance to tire people out.

        I mean UG and guys that think like him, you guys wanna see what's close to a real fight right? 10 more minutes would be a lot closer as there's no time limits in a "real fight".

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          rabble

          February 3, 2013 at 2:19 am

          Guys like Frankie are rare. The title fights in the higher weight classes would suffer substantially. Hell, you might even see guys like Frankie fighting more reserved in fear of gassing out in the later rounds.
          And god forbid anyone would have to watch two heavyweights hold each other against the cage for 10 more minutes than we already get.

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            Evan Holober

            February 3, 2013 at 1:49 pm

            Guys like that will never be in title fights though. Guys like Cain, JDS, Werdum, and other top tier HW's would most certainly be ready to go 7. Plus any other top tier fighter above Frankie's weight class.

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          UnderdogGreatness

          February 3, 2013 at 2:22 am

          EH, I don't have anything against Edgar, in fact, I like watching him fight. I just didn't think he won that fight tonight, that's all. I was sort of joking earlier, but If you think he won it, I'm also okay with that.

          We can agree to disagree.

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            Evan Holober

            February 3, 2013 at 2:30 am

            No, I didn't think he won at all. Just did enough to win the 4th and 5th.

            I've simply wanted to see MMA go more rounds for a while now. This just exemplified my own opinion on this because IMO Aldo was fading and Edgar wasn't.

            I'm pretty much an equal fan of both. Just feel really bad for Frankie as I thought he should still be LW champ right now.

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            UnderdogGreatness

            February 3, 2013 at 2:44 am

            I think Edgar's fighting style is what's causing him to lose a few fights in the UFC. I like watching fighters with footwork and head movement, so Edgar, in opinion, is fun to watch. If he had knockout power, he'd be unstoppable.

            Like you said, Aldo did get tired at the end of the fight, but most of the damage was already done in the first three rounds.

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            NuclearSun

            February 3, 2013 at 3:45 am

            See your argument for more rounds are based off of the fight you just saw that was scheduled for 5 rounds. IF there were more rounds, fighters would pace their selves a lot more. So we might get 7 rounds, but the first 3-4 are awful boring.

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            Evan Holober

            February 3, 2013 at 5:43 am

            NS- That very well could be true, but fighters like Frankie, Demetrious, Dominick, GSP, Cain, and others that are in crazy shape could use that extra time to their advantage.

            Some fghters might pace themselves more, but some could use it to their advantage.

            My opinion is based on the similarities in MMA, and boxing. And how many late fight heroics there have been in the sweet science's history.

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            falcon4917

            February 3, 2013 at 8:50 am

            I understand your logic for longer amount of time. But if they did that I would feel they would need to take away rounds all together as a lot of the guys that have endurance suffer very badly early on and get a break after 5 minutes to recover. A lot of those fights would not have them recover without a break. So I feel guys like Frankie may not get back up if they don't have a break here and there to reset. 15-20 minutes with no breaks might be a good trade off. It will allow fighters to not lose position and also allow the cardio kings time to overcome.

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            Evan Holober

            February 3, 2013 at 1:51 pm

            falcon- That would never happen though. Rounds being instituted was a major issue in legitimizing MMA as a sport. Would be cool to watch for me though.

            IMO 7 rounds is actually a legitimate thought tho, considering boxings times and the close relationship each sport shares.

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            falcon4917

            February 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm

            Yes I agree, it is hypothetical and far from likely, just how I would like to see it. 7 rounds I could watch but it would certainly favor the guys who hang on for the first few.

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            enjoylife321

            February 3, 2013 at 3:54 am

            @Evan…..There are so many 3 round fights you watch that need an extra round but 5×5 minute rounds in a title fight is a big ask for any athletes cardio. In boxing they are not grappling and wrestling, getting leg kicked etc and their rounds are only three minutes. If you introduce longer rounds it may change how guys fight as well, you may have more fighters pacing their way through just so they can last. But on the other hand having extra rounds like you say would allow alot of guys who lose the early rounds to nerves to settle in and get a better result.

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      BjjFan

      February 3, 2013 at 12:22 pm

      boxers do not have to deal with the full body weight of their opponent, catch a grip of reality duder!

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        Evan Holober

        February 3, 2013 at 1:53 pm

        BJJfan- Oh really duder?!?!

        Top tier fighters can deal with that. Their stamina stays in tact anyway.

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          BjjFan

          February 4, 2013 at 2:17 pm

          @Evan

          A few facts:
          Top tier fighters may or may not be able to deal with that. Neither of us are pro athletes, so we can only make presumptions.

          I was only debunking your boxing comparison as the two are very different sports that make very different physical demands on the body.

          Neither point can be disputed. On the issue of extra rounds, at which point do you draw the line. Using your 'real fight' logic, where do you stop? I could use your own point to insist that we have 8 or 9 rounds.

          Do you really think all weight classes can fight for the same length of time? Have you seen Carwin vs Lesnar? Do you really think the better 'street fighter' won on that occasion?

          you make a lot of assumptions and bend reality to suit your point, but it is interesting and a discussion that should be had by athletic commisions/fighters/coaches and Doctors….. not by keyboard warriors.

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            Evan Holober

            February 4, 2013 at 4:41 pm

            Let me preamble my retort to you with the definition of what "fact" means, considering you're pretty far from understanding it.

            Fact- something that actually exists; reality; truth

            That's the most common. When you start off a thought with something along the lines of "here are a few facts", then go off on an inconsistent point relating your own lack of knowledge to others, your understanding of the word "fact" is obviously inaccurate.

            Ok, now that we've addressed one part of your lack of knowledge, let's get to the rest.

            "Top tier fighters may or may not be able to deal with that. Neither of us are pro athletes, so we can only make presumptions."

            It's common knowledge top tier fighters (champions, former champions, and title challengers), regularly go up to 10 rounds in the gym. Claiming they possibly couldn't, isn't a "fact".

            "I was only debunking your boxing comparison as the two are very different sports that make very different physical demands on the body."

            I agree, but top tier fighters in MMA most of the time aren't dying at the end of 5 rounds. Certainly not in the lower weight classes.

            "Neither point can be disputed. On the issue of extra rounds, at which point do you draw the line. Using your 'real fight' logic, where do you stop? I could use your own point to insist that we have 8 or 9 rounds."

            My own point involves around boxing. Where the fight lasts 36 minutes. There would be no reason to up to 9 (8 wouldn't make sense as it would create an equal number of round, and involve an easier chance at draws which is part of boxings problem), as the prize fight will already last the length of fights the public spends the most money on in the first place.

            "Do you really think all weight classes can fight for the same length of time? Have you seen Carwin vs Lesnar? Do you really think the better 'street fighter' won on that occasion?"

            Street fighter? Are you trying to now paint me into a corner because I related a conversation with street fighting as I know UG appreciates fighting that resembles what a fight really looks like? Did you know any of that before jumping to the conclusion to post, or just decide it was better to look like an idiot? I'll go with the latter.

            Anyway, it was close as the fighter with the most stamina won and would have choked his opponent unconcsious had it not been for the referee. Also, yes all top tier fighters could go longer than 5. Cain Velasquez, JDS, and Big Foot Silva, could all go longer than 5 rounds if needed (and have spoken about such on multiple occassions). Which would be the weight class that has the hardest time with 25 mins already.

            "you make a lot of assumptions and bend reality to suit your point, but it is interesting and a discussion that should be had by athletic commisions/fighters/coaches and Doctors….. not by keyboard warriors."

            Might wanna think before posting about assumptions in the future considering you make a lot about me that aren't true. I assume that fighters could go farther than 5 because top tier training camps force guys to go longer all the time. It also quite visible to see that guys competing in title fights rarely look gas at the end of a fight no matter how brutal it is.

            Lastly, I'm a registered judge with the state of Virginia. I've been writing about MMA and boxing since 2009 so "keyboard warrior" doesn't really apply to me.

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            BjjFan

            February 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm

            what i said was a fact and no amount of beefed up bullshit changes that.

            especially beefed up bullshit while attempting to patronize. you need to get fucking over yourself dude.

            i mean, you really, really think you have something to say worth a shit. what sort of self obsessed man writes hundreds of words on a thread trying to convince others he is correct? all while taking his own presumptions as facts. pathetic.

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            Evan Holober

            February 4, 2013 at 7:00 pm

            Apparenlty, you still don't understand what the word fact means…

            Sorry, still not good enough there buddy.You can choose to continue on by using a whole bunch of nonsense about beefing up things and using inaccurate assessments to try and reinforce your idiocy, but it's not working. You've provided no facts, and brought absolutely no relevant informtion to this conversation since you've entered it. Move on.

            Or keep getting drilled, as you've moved on from any attempt at reinforcing your point already.

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            BjjFan

            February 5, 2013 at 2:51 am

            Brilliant, I didn't think it was possible but somehow your head has went even further up your ass.

            The concern of you not being able to understand (a) you are making presumptions and (b) that boxing has nothing to offer as a comparison of physical requirements, as facts is not my problem and it's here for all to read.

            The way you repeat your own opinion numerous times as actual facts makes this issue very ironic indeed. Something I have no doubt, that will go over your head(again).

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            Evan Holober

            February 5, 2013 at 2:31 pm

            "Brilliant, I didn't think it was possible but somehow your head has went even further up your ass."

            Brilliant, you still are running away from knowing nothing about what you're talking about to talk shit. Congratulations.

            "The concern of you not being able to understand (a) you are making presumptions and (b) that boxing has nothing to offer as a comparison of physical requirements, as facts is not my problem and it's here for all to read."

            Going by historical data of guys in training is not presumptions. Going by statements made by top tier fighters is not presumptions.Boxing being the closest thing in combat sports in MMA makes it an apt comparison. This statement by you: "Top tier fighters may or may not be able to deal with that. Neither of us are pro athletes, so we can only make presumptions." is not a fact. This statement by you: "I was only debunking your boxing comparison as the two are very different sports that make very different physical demands on the body. Neither point can be disputed." is not a fact. It's not even a correct statement as the first part has evidence to the contrary in training data and statements from top tier fighters.

            You really don't understand, but you're getting crushed here. And it's going to continue to happen as you really believe the nonsense you're typing. Its sad, and kind of entertaining.

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            BjjFan

            February 5, 2013 at 3:32 pm

            believe me, i am entertained. i find it hilarious when pseudo intellectuals repeat the same thing enough times, that they flat out convince themselves of their own nonsense. egos are a fascinating thing.

            'crushed'… fucking hilarious. pathetic, but hilarious.

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            Evan Holober

            February 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm

            …. or in other words "I have nothing relevant left to say so I'm going to ramble on to make myself feel better."

            Any other "facts"?

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            BjjFan

            February 5, 2013 at 4:37 pm

            Pseudo intellectual and a last word freak….

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            Evan Holober

            February 5, 2013 at 4:39 pm

            Would you prefer kettle or pot?

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    UnderdogGreatness

    February 3, 2013 at 2:01 am

    Way to put that S.O.B on his back all night long, Maia.

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    rabble

    February 3, 2013 at 2:06 am

    The only thing I'm mad about is those 49-46 scores. What fight were those judges watching?

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      rabble

      February 3, 2013 at 2:11 am

      Oh, and Jose claiming he won every round except for 1 minute of the 4th. What fight was he fighting?

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        azzkika

        February 3, 2013 at 2:44 am

        If the fight was scored round by round then Edgar was robbed. Proper scoring (judges) would have seen a new FW champ tonight BUT….. I actually thought over the whole fight Aldo edged it due to the early rounds but he only won 2 of the rounds.

        I really wish they'd drop the round by round scoring and score the fight as a whole. there'd be far less controversy around decisions then.

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          InfiniteEnigma

          February 3, 2013 at 4:50 am

          well then lets just drop round scoring and score by damage. the real way a real fight is scored. FRANKIE LEFT BUSTED UP AGAIN. He lost . clear, plain and simple. By pitter patter points, he won 4 and 5. Aldo eaked out 3, and dominated 1 and 2. but all the way through, the same story , Edgar did no damage, Aldo busted up his leg and face, Aldo made real contact, Frankie made rabbit punches , just like vs Hendo. Sorry, but your call for a dismissal of rounds, only makes it more clear in favor of Aldo. If that was a street fight, the guy with the swollen eye, bloody nose, and bruised up thigh loses, the guy with minimal damage wins.

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          falcon4917

          February 3, 2013 at 8:53 am

          I agree, judging a fight as a whole would be much better. Otherwise a dominant fighter with less points can lose to pitter patter that doesn't matter.

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    Kuroobi

    February 3, 2013 at 3:03 am

    Who else thought the superman punch off the cage, aldo did at the end, was badass? :)

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    mindkontrolle

    February 3, 2013 at 3:04 am

    Frankie didn't win, he won rounds 4 and 5 though.

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    odesahitman

    February 3, 2013 at 3:12 am

    Edgar is a great fighter I wanted him to win, but when I watch the fight without sound, its a safe 3-2 to Aldo.

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    51JD51

    February 3, 2013 at 3:18 am

    God damnit Overeem now I look like a retard for saying how much of a mismatch this fight was

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    mmauk

    February 3, 2013 at 3:36 am

    Really confused about the bickering about the main event, forget stats and just judge round by round. Aldo clearly won rounds 1-2 and Edgar clearly won rounds 4-5, Joe Rogan was right about round 3 being the only round that wasn't as clear as the others. I though Edgar finished the round strong but I gave it to Aldo based on the overall 5 mins.

    Also I was disgusted with Rashad's Evans performance, he is nowhere as good as he thinks he is in the striking department.

    As for Overeem Rogan called it right imo, he showed no respect for the hand skills/power of Big Foot. I was a fan of his before he was exposed as drug cheat and was willing to give him a second chance but his casual approach annoyed me. I wanted to go to the toilet badly at that point too lol but I had a funny feeling someone was gonna get knocked out, tbh I thought The Reem would come out in the third and show more urgency and the put the pressure on to finish Big Foot, boy was I wrong.

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    Kevin

    February 3, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Incredible fight!

    Aldo Round 1, 2
    Round 3 toss up (I had Edgar)
    Edgar Round 3, 4

    The sport is going to have questionable judging. Edgar looked more beat up that is no doubt, but he always does even when hes knocking guys out.

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    Akordas

    February 3, 2013 at 11:41 am

    I see no diffrence for Frankie in 145 he can go back to 155

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    Entity

    February 3, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    Frankie…Also…please finish the flucking fights please so Anton saves money on bandwidth and site storage costs lmao 8P

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    rabble

    February 4, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Oh yeah, big props to the flyweights. McCall really surprized me with how he handled the Benavidez onslaught. It seems like everybody forgot about that fight.

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