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Nate Quarry: The UFC Looks At Fighters As Products To Use And Discard
Former UFC veteran, Nate Quarry, has taken to an online forum and expressed his (negative) opinions on fighter income within the UFC. Specifically, Quarry has taken the promotion to task over the issue of fighter sponsorships.
In what might be the harshest criticism to date that fans have heard from a fighter regarding income, Quarry describes a world that is nearly Machiavellian in its treatment of fighters and one that apparently, has no regard or concern for the fighters financial wellbeing.
Quarry’s remarks fall fast and hard on the heels of Chris Leben’s Twitter outburst from a day ago, when the (recently) retired Leben tweeted that his career with the UFC had left him “broken, with nothing” and that he would have been better off if he’d spent the last ten years of his life driving a truck.
For the record, Leben subsequently recanted the statement, tweeting that he’d just lost his dog (the deduction be that he was in an emotional state) and that fans should “disregard” his negative tweet referencing the UFC.
However, Quarry’s Mixedmatialarts.com post appears to indicate that Leben’s initial tweet was more a reflection of the truth, then not.
Quarry paints a picture of fighters being corralled at every financial turn and always to the benefit of the UFC and never to that of the fighters. In terms of the sponsorship issue, Quarry ostensibly states that the problem has been created by the promotion, itself.
As Quarry tells it, fighters were, at first, allowed to seek out their own sponsors and without any interference from the promotion. However, that all changed and to the point, that a fighter’s sponsor was required to pay the UFC 100K for the privilege of sponsoring the fighter, and that was before the sponsor pays / paid the fighter anything. As such, the process has pushed out the small sponsors, leaving only the big ones, and they’re simply not interested in dealingwith non-marquee fighters. Beyond that, the large sponsors don’t have the budgets to contend with the lesser known fighters.
Perhaps the most revelatory part of Quarry’s remarks is that the UFC would deny a fighter the right to wear his “own shirt.” Yet, if a fighter wished to purchase the right to wear their own brand, as licensed from the promotion, then that was doable, but at a rate. As Quarry pointed out, a UFC lawyer once said to him, “Sure, give me $50,000 and we can talk about it.” To some, that might seem like the promotion not only denying a fighter an opportunity to make money, but more importantly looking to profit of them as they do so; an Octagon tax if you will.
In short, Quarry describes a business that is making a lot of money, but one that shares little of it with the fighters. More to the point, Quarry stated that the promotion looks at the fighters as nothing more than “product to use and discard” and that the ‘bottom-line’ is everything to the brand.
That said, the UFC is a business and Quarry’s remarks are echoed from four years removal from the brand and more particularly, ‘The Rock’ was never an incredibly successful or marketable fighter. And at the end of the day it’s wins and successes in the UFC that put the big paydays on a fighter’s table.
However and that said, Quarry’s comments about squeezing fighters too much and other promotions beginning to look good to them as a result of it, may well prove to be prophetic. In an effort to maximize profits the promotion cuts too close to the bone, they could easily begin to bleed legitimate talent to Bellator and the WSOF; case in point, Gilbert Melendez.
Quarry’s remarks, in full, are as follows:
“When I signed with the UFC this is what I was told
We can’t pay you much but you can have any sponsors you want.
Then: We need to approve your sponsors.
Then: You can’t have any conflicting sponsors.
Then: You can’t thank your sponsors after fights.
Then: We are not approving any sponsors that we don’t like their product.
Then: Your sponsors have to pay us a fee of $50,000 for the pleasure to sponsor you.
Then: Your sponsors have to pay us a fee of $100,000 for the pleasure to sponsor you.
If a sponsor has a budget of 10k to sponsor a fighter, they are then out. If there are 5 shorts companies in the UFC you can only go to them for a sponsorship. If they have spent their budget or don’t want to support an up and coming fighter they give you shorts instead of money. If you’re fighting for $6,000 to show and fighting 3 times a year, even $500 makes a big difference. When there is no competition they don’t have to pay you. I lost And1 as a sponsor when the UFC enacted the tax.
At the UFC summit a fighter asked if he could wear his own shirt. Dana laughed and said, “Uh… we can talk about it.” I turned around and asked the UFC lawyer if I could wear my OWN shirt and he said, “Sure, give me $50,000 and we can talk about it.”
People have no clue from the outside what it’s like to fight for the UFC. After spending 10-15 years chasing your dream only to see that the company it’s been your dream to fight for cares nothing about the fighters and only cares about the bottom line.
When I was fighting for the UFC we got X-Mas presents like an iPod. A very bottom of the line iPod but it was still cool. Now the guys get a gift certificate to the UFC store and can use it ONE day. Any money they don’t spend on that day is forfeited.
A fighter gets to use the gym at the hotel he’s fighting at for free. The cornermen and everyone with him have to pay. So I’m helping Leben make weight the day of weigh ins and have to pay to go sit in the sauna with him. The UFC couldn’t say, “The fighter gets 3 people to go into the gym with him the week of the fight.”
That’s just nickel and dime stuff.
With every little bit they try to squeeze out of the fighters, the more the other organizations will look more attractive.
I’m incredibly grateful for the opportunity to fight for the UFC and everything I have besides my daughter has come from fighting. But let’s not fool ourselves. It’s not a charity. It’s a business. And they are doing everything they can to make money. The fighters are just a product to use and discard. Every up and coming fighter is the best ever. Every ex-fighter who then expresses an opinion is a coward, loser, etc, etc.
I fought for the world title for $10,000. Not a penny more. No bonus. No cut of the PPV. The gate alone was 3.5 million dollars. The third highest gate in UFC history at the time. And they must have loved the fight cuz they show the final punch at the start of EVERY UFC PPV.
And that’s fine. Because it’s a business. But sooner or later the allure of fighting in the UFC will not be as attractive as fighting for an organization that takes care of you, appreciates you, will let you have sponsors to help make up the income gap, doesn’t trash you when you think for yourself, and on and on. Just like every business you work for. It’s funny to me to hear people cheer for Dana when he says things that if he was your boss and he said them about you, you would be looking for another job. But when you’re signed to a contract, you can’t go anywhere. No matter how much you want to.
When I retired I received a form letter, EMAILED to me that said, “Should you choose to fight again you are still under contract with the UFC.” I didn’t even get a hard copy with a real signature that I could frame.
As I said, I love what the UFC has done for me and my family. And specifically what Dana has done for me.
But I also know it’s a business. And that’s the best piece of advice I can give to wanna be fighters. Fight for the love of the game. But you better treat it like a business. Because the promoter handing you a contract sure will.”