UFC 114 Aftermath: Who will win, Rashad Evans or Shogun Rua?


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  1. Avatar of Rigo

    Rigo

    May 30, 2010 at 9:11 am

    Super easy Shogun by KO!!!!

  2. Avatar of pound4pound

    pound4pound

    May 30, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Well Rashad was not able to handle Machida´s speed and Machida was not able to handle Rua´s speed, I think Rua…

  3. Avatar of japanegro23

    japanegro23

    May 30, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Please Shogun…. Please win. I’m tired of wrestling matches. Knock him out. I know you are reading this Shogun.

  4. Avatar of BigNog22

    BigNog22

    May 30, 2010 at 9:14 am

    c’mon, machida ko the f-out evans,and he got kotfo by shogun,so shogun should kofto rashad,ahahahhaha

  5. Avatar of grapplure

    grapplure

    May 30, 2010 at 9:15 am

    rigo cmon!! rashad is gonna double leg shogun and hump him for five minutes….you cant learn division 1 skills in a 3 month training camp

  6. Avatar of hondata79

    hondata79

    May 30, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Another poll where Rashad is a underdog, i like it ill take rashad !

    AGAIN !

  7. Avatar of UndefeatedOfWest

    UndefeatedOfWest

    May 30, 2010 at 9:20 am

    I don’t know if shogun has any takedown defense… If he does I know it wasn’t as good as rampage who had 2nd best in mma (I’ll have to look at that again though, might be wrong).

  8. Avatar of truthHURTS

    truthHURTS

    May 30, 2010 at 9:22 am

    rashad by dry humpin for 25mins unless he cums in 20mins n then shogun kills him…. we all know rashad can do 15mins of dry humpin

  9. Avatar of Ninja

    Ninja

    May 30, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Shogun by KO, SHogun is quick enough to catch Evans, Shogun has good enough ground to bring the fight to the feet and Shogun is just way better than Gayshad

  10. Avatar of Ninja

    Ninja

    May 30, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Shogun doesnt have takedown defense but he has amazing ground and can easily bring the fight back to the feet just like he did against Machida

  11. Avatar of HAKI

    HAKI

    May 30, 2010 at 10:29 am

    I couldnt agree more wid ya homie, it almost looked like GSP was fighting Rampage, but without all the spooning.

  12. Avatar of UnderdogGreatness

    UnderdogGreatness

    May 30, 2010 at 11:02 am

    You’re once again underestimating Rashad Evans as a fighter. Shogun is one of my favorite fighters, but If Rashad fights Shogun the way he fought Rampage, it will be a longgggg night for Shogun. Don’t count Rashad Evans out.

  13. Avatar of BlueClearSky

    BlueClearSky

    May 30, 2010 at 11:27 am

    I pick Rashad win by decision , the way Evans trained with GSP and his team ,I’ll with him to against Shogun again.

  14. Avatar of TheMMAfan

    TheMMAfan

    May 30, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Very true, one of my favorite fighters and it turned out how I knew it would. I think in order to win the fight Shogun has to come out with the same fast passed agressive style like he used against machida. I would have rather seen rashad vs machida 2

  15. Avatar of SavOnDeck

    SavOnDeck

    May 30, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    do yall hate on GSP like yall do rashad? cuz all i ever hear about is how gsp is the best fight ever but he does the same thing and the last couple fights is didnt even try to stand with san hardy or thiago alves

    give rashad evans his props he did better against rampage than he did against thiago silva

  16. Avatar of mokoko

    mokoko

    May 30, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    Shogun killed Rampage at his prime and Rashad is not competition for Shogun

  17. Avatar of PrideFC

    PrideFC

    May 30, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Yep i hope shogun destroys him, fighters like Randy/GSP/Koscheck/Rashad are ruining mma.

  18. Avatar of 1878

    1878

    May 30, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    To be honest with you I knew deep down that the Rampage v Rashad fight would go down like that – Even though I think it sucks but it is clever when you are are great wrestler and the man standing in front of you is a KO machine he did it against Thiago and he did it again against Rampage – I have got to go with Shogun in this fight tho cuz if you have the ability to stop Rashad getting close to you and you have great stand up and technique – LIKE MACHIDA – you have a pretty good chance you will destroy Rashad – Shogun defiently has this ability even when shogun gets took down he is really good a getting back to his feet e.g. in the 2nd Machida he was taken down twice and still managed the KO in the 1st round – So Im Going with Shogun in this 1.

    1. Rashad v Shogun
    2. Rampage V Machida
    3. Lil Nog v Forrest
    4. Jason Brilz v Thiago
    Thats how I see the next top fights looking in the LHW division.
    Brilz looked great last night question marks over Lil Nog stand up he looks to easy to hit for me – I think a heavy handed fighter would kill him someone like Thiago who is a KO machine and also has a BJJ Black Belt so he wont panic with Lil Nog on top of him.

    Shogun WAR!!!

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    partyboy

    May 30, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    shogun will swarm him…first or second round ko

  20. Avatar of Jizzle11

    Jizzle11

    May 30, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Shogun’s ground skills are too good

  21. Avatar of clasonic

    clasonic

    May 30, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    did you not see rashad against rampage, it looked like rashad had taken some speed

  22. Avatar of Joey Santosus

    Joey Santosus

    May 30, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    Try boxing….. Those guys never use any skill outside of punching. That may be a better sport for you. Sounds like you are looking for some bare knuckle brawling….. Unfortunately MMA has evolved past that.

  23. Avatar of Joey Santosus

    Joey Santosus

    May 30, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Try boxing…..

  24. Avatar of mmauk

    mmauk

    May 30, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    your right people shouldn’t underestimate rashad but shogun will finish rashad like a sharp active rampage would have. machida broke evans in the striking department ok he’s on his way back up but this fight was no different to the T.silva fight rashad mixed the stand up and wrestling but got rocked in the 3rd and was happy with the decision because thats his game plan now. and thats why he is becoming more unpopular shogun will struggle with rashads wrestling but over 5 rounds shogun will get 1 opportunity to finish the fight and unlike t.silva and ramoage before him the will take it

  25. Avatar of Joey Santosus

    Joey Santosus

    May 30, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    So this means I gotta look at a bunch of mind-numbing, senseless, irrational rambling for months now about Rashad. I am just gonna give some of you the benefit of the doubt and say that you don’t really believe the things you are saying and rather you are just upset one of your favorite fighters lost. Otherwise, I have to realize that most of you aren’t really even fans off MMA….. What Rashad did was no where NEAR what GSP, Koscheck, and others do. He threw a lot more than they do, landed more, and NEVER went to the ground with Rampage. Rampage had plenty of time to prepare and came in totally unequipped to handle Evans…..THATS IT!! Sounds to me like you guys would be happier with boxing! If you are looking for some bare-knuckle brawling then sorry to tell you MMA has evolved waaayyy past that. Use your god given sense please!! Would you expect Rampage to go in and grapple with a submission artist? Why would he? I mean just stop it, you guys are to much……Its MMA!!

  26. Avatar of UndefeatedOfWest

    UndefeatedOfWest

    May 30, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    tbh, yes people do hate on gsp for his couple of last performances… Same thing with anderson silva. So what are you talking about?

  27. Avatar of NikMegamanHulstein

    NikMegamanHulstein

    May 30, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    It always seems in these polls, the person that is voted the least ends up winning…
    I want Shogun to kill his bitch ass but i voted on Rashad.
    Come on!! Vote for Rashad so he can lose XD

  28. Avatar of NikMegamanHulstein

    NikMegamanHulstein

    May 30, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    I see Shogun swarming him with head kicks, leg kicks, and flying fists.
    Shogun via 1st round KO

  29. Avatar of joelsephw420

    joelsephw420

    May 30, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    i think that since rashad keeps going to decision, shogun will kick his ass

  30. Avatar of pound4pound

    pound4pound

    May 30, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Did you watc Rashad vs Machida, everything started when Rashad shot for a Take down and Machida caugt him and kept hitting him until he did the golfinsh out of tank dance…

  31. Avatar of pound4pound

    pound4pound

    May 30, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    And has become a dryhumping sport…

  32. Avatar of dray12

    dray12

    May 30, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Yea, Rashad had an easy time against Rampage because he doesn’t throw kicks, and the same with thiago silva. But he’ll lose to shogun like he did to machida and he even looked uncomfortable against forest up until he beat him because of the kicks.

    • Avatar of Cronos

      Cronos

      January 13, 2011 at 3:26 am

      I’m sure Rashad is training extra hard on catching the kicks. And if u watch closely Rashad counters kicks very good. Caught Forrest after a threw kicks and ended up catching the kick and countering. He also countered T. Silva’s body kick in the third round with a big right

  33. Avatar of pound4pound

    pound4pound

    May 30, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    First of all, Rampage has no ground skills, second thing Rashad was not able to complete must of the takedowns attemps, Rua hs nasty ground game, If Rashad takes him down, he is goign to sweep him and Rashad is going to end up on his back, and then you can ask Machida how that goes… if Rashad is not able to get him down and tries to press him against the cage for 25 minutes Rashad is goign to find himself in a nasty guillotine choke or in Muay thay clinch where his is not goign to be able to scape, and if he tries his luck on his feet he is goign to get murder…

    • Avatar of Madnessstill

      Madnessstill

      January 13, 2011 at 4:06 am

      Yea..it’s clear rampage has no groundskills, he’s only been submitted once out of the 39 times he fought. but 1 out of 39 is a really high score to be fair, and we all know rampage can’t wrestle to save his life…shogun is clearly a much better wrestler.

      On the other hand, shogun has only one submission out of his 23 fights, but like i just said, ONE TIME IS HUUUUGE! And it was a sub against crazy kevin randleman and we all know he’s more of a ground wizard than rashad could ever be.

  34. Avatar of dray12

    dray12

    May 30, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    SHOGUN BY LEG LOCK! When was the last time a title fight ended like that!?

  35. Avatar of japanegro23

    japanegro23

    May 30, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    @Stickin
    That match last night didn’t show a sport evolving. If anything its taking a step back. A lot of fans want to see striking. Yes I know its only one aspect to MMA but its an exciting one. Last night we saw Rashad rock Rampage and Rampage rock Rashad. I bet you were on the edge of your seat for that. The rest of the match was a snore. The fact that you want to defend the wrestling win is just as bad as us who want to see the striking. Yea MMA allows for all disciplines but I rather see just striking rather than just wrestling. An example I used in another post was GSP. He wrestled Hardy to death but he was constantly looking for a finish. Rashad didn’t do that. Looking for a decision win is smart for wrestlers and bs for the fans.

  36. Avatar of Jpulfrey84084

    Jpulfrey84084

    May 30, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    i hate gsp

  37. Avatar of IChokePeople

    IChokePeople

    May 30, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Either one of them could pull out a win. I think Shogun is a slightly better fighter and Rashad has been rocked or KOd three fights in a row so a KO from Shogun is possible but I have a feeling that Rashad will win, lose the belt to the next guy and then the belt will just continue to change hands. The top guys st LHW are so closely matched that anyone could beat anyone. Rampage was a couple punches from a ref stoppage last night. If the wind was blowing at a slightly different angle we might be talking about who would win that rematch.

  38. Avatar of SpiderSilva

    SpiderSilva

    May 30, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Just like he doubled Machida right? If you honestly think Rashad can beat Shogun then you’re in the wrong sport. He wont get him down and if he does Shogun will pop right back up, he’ll kick the shit out of his legs and ribs which will prevent take downs plus he’ll have to go 25 minutes without getting hit by Shogun…I’ll be here to welcome you to reality when Rashad gets KO’d

    • Avatar of Madnessstill

      Madnessstill

      January 13, 2011 at 4:15 am

      Lets give shogun powers he doesnt actually have like machidas evasive skills. Shogun will fly around the ring and use his eye lasers to prevent takedowns.

      Why the hell do people keep bringing up machida when they say shogun is going to win? That’s sooooo stupid, the two fighters have NOTHING in common.

  39. Avatar of SpiderSilva

    SpiderSilva

    May 30, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Thank you…thats what I’m trying to tell these people. His take downs wont mean anything…Shogun is going to make him sleep again

  40. Avatar of BlueClearSky

    BlueClearSky

    May 31, 2010 at 12:54 am

    that’s why and after all they are still a winners

    • Avatar of Madnessstill

      Madnessstill

      January 13, 2011 at 3:58 am

      No no no UFC is ruining MMA!! Rawwwwr pride for life!!

      Whatever man. If people cheer For AS to get hugged out why can’t we here? it has such a good chance of happening but people like to pretend shogun is invincible.

  41. Avatar of partyboy

    partyboy

    May 31, 2010 at 1:47 am

    rashad didnt keep goin to the ground with rampage because most of the time he COULDNT…all that time spent pressed up against the cage wasnt for shits and giggles, he was trying to take him down but couldnt cos rampage is a very good defensive wrestler

  42. Avatar of D

    D

    May 31, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Shogun is bigger, stronger, faster and has better bjj and more technical striking and punching power. Rashad might take him down, but he couldn’t keep Thiago Silva down when he took him down, and it will be the same story with Shogun. If he tries to win with takedowns, Shogun will destroy his legs with kicks, and eventually overwhelm him with punches and knees. Shogun by KO.

  43. Avatar of mmauk

    mmauk

    May 31, 2010 at 2:05 am

    your right and wrong P4P. first rampage takedown D is better than rua’s second ruas takedown defence is average. BUT he gets back to his feet and sweeps very very well. over 5 rounds rua will get at least 1 chance to take him out just like t.silva and rampage. i don’t see a submission win doe i see another vicious knock out for rua.

  44. Avatar of dray12

    dray12

    May 31, 2010 at 3:30 am

    Yea, plus styles make matches and all the top guys at LHW have different styles so i could definitely see the belt changing hands a lot. If someone wants to hold it for long It comes down to who makes the most rapid growth on a fight-to-fight basis and Rashad definitely has a good case for that.

  45. Avatar of yoshistheman

    yoshistheman

    May 31, 2010 at 4:49 am

    double knockout

  46. Avatar of doberman

    doberman

    May 31, 2010 at 6:39 am

    Agreed

  47. Avatar of sambo

    sambo

    May 31, 2010 at 7:17 am

    Shogun has two great takedown defenses……left knee and right knee.
    Ninja is right. Even if he gets taken down, he has a great ground game and will strike from the guard and just get back up.

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    sambo

    May 31, 2010 at 7:30 am

    that would be a first…..Shogun has never been knocked out

  49. Avatar of crazyb

    crazyb

    May 31, 2010 at 8:55 am

    I’ve always thought that if a guy can take u down & u cant stop him oh well learn how 2 deal wid it or dats ur handi-cap! thats a MMA skill that hes got over you, the same way if u’ve blatantly got knockout power & ur opponent dont hes not gonna stand wid u and bang! if he did it would b dumb on his part & wen he gets KO’d every1 will say so just look at bj penn vs sean sherk. Rashad had the right game plan-do everything except stand toe 2 toe wid him & in my opinion evans done dat well but he still talks shit coz he was talking bout KOing rampage but was shook to just bang wid him & rightly so coz Rampage would of took his head of!!!
    Next time i hope rampage comes better equipped, wouldn’t mind seeing him go 4 some takedowns & work some ground & pound
    Cant wait 2 see a rematch once shogun beats up Rashad !

  50. Avatar of thagonjaking

    thagonjaking

    May 31, 2010 at 9:26 am

    this is such a dumb ****in fight. Dana needs to man up and make Jones vs Shogun happen. we dont need to see another Rashad chicken dance. this is not ****head season!

  51. Avatar of BlueClearSky

    BlueClearSky

    May 31, 2010 at 10:12 am

    so Dana not man enough and Rashad just a chicken dance .LOL

  52. Avatar of fluffybuns

    fluffybuns

    May 31, 2010 at 11:06 am

    Rashad seems so ordinary compared to the ninja mystique of Hua. Then again, I still never understood why Hua lost to Forrest. Definitely a draw.

  53. Avatar of badblueboy

    badblueboy

    May 31, 2010 at 11:46 am

    rashad was lucky in the last 2 fights to not get knocked out, i dont think he will make it trough 5 rounds with shogun…

  54. Avatar of Joey Santosus

    Joey Santosus

    May 31, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    But see thats where you’re wrong…. I am not defending a “wrestling win!” He obviously did both!! You even just said that he rocked Rampage!! That wasnt the only punch!! He was punching him throughout the entire fight!! He was punching him against the cage….. He punched the whole fight!! He just moved in and out!! I think its just sad…. So you are basically saying they shouldnt engage? You should just stop it already man. Its MMA…. You are entitled to your opinion, but you are letting your emotions make it seem like you are not a fan of MMA……

  55. Avatar of Cronos

    Cronos

    May 31, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    I love the Shogun bandwagon. It was never this big before the 1rst machida fight, everyone said shogun was gonna get destroyed…I got Rashad winning this fight, than I cant wait to hear all u say how Rashad was boring and didnt deserve it. He is no where close to as boring as gsp has gotten.

  56. Avatar of Cronos

    Cronos

    May 31, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    You are exactly right, 100%

  57. Avatar of bluntsandbeers

    bluntsandbeers

    May 31, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    pffft rampage has to much pride to admit he didnt show up in shape agianst rashad at all. jackson has never looked so AWFUL in his career. nd if that little chimpanzee rashad dances around like a retard he will get knocked the **** out in the fight agianst shogun. rashad has proved the longer he stays in teh cage the more chance he has of getting caught on his little glass chin

  58. Avatar of terra2805

    terra2805

    June 1, 2010 at 2:07 am

    Since Rashad got KTFO by Machida he’s gone back to his wrestilng game, he’s not as willing to stand and exchange as he used to be, like in his fight with Brad Imes back in the day, in that fight Rashad was swinging for the fences man but even up to recent times he was willing to exchange, till he got caught, now he’s scared to strike with known heavy punchers, like against Rampage, it’s clear to see. He’s lucky Rampage didn’t show up for that fight man, for real, and i STILL say Rampage is, by far, the better fighter and Shogun is also a better fighter than Rashad and Rashad isn’t going to have that kind of luck twice, no way man. Shogun wont let him bounce around, if he is as aggressive with his Muay thai as he was against Machida, it wont even be close, Rashad will get fuc*ed up chute box style……..can not wait!…..:(…..

  59. Avatar of HunterB

    HunterB

    June 1, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    maybe a long night, but shogun has dynamite packed away in his hands, elbows and shins. shogun tko in the 4th

  60. Avatar of HunterB

    HunterB

    June 1, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    um where the hell is jon jones in your weak ass fantasy world

  61. Avatar of HunterB

    HunterB

    June 1, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    at silvia bs arlovski number 1, i believe it was UFC 50

  62. Avatar of HunterB

    HunterB

    June 1, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    crazy b, really in truly please speak english

  63. Avatar of HunterB

    HunterB

    June 1, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    100 % right lol, rashad started to change a few years ago, but when it came down to fighting the top tier guys as of late, he resorted back to his lay n pray style. i dont see him beating shogun

  64. Avatar of HunterB

    HunterB

    June 1, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    his name is rua

  65. Avatar of HunterB

    HunterB

    June 1, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    shogun has been my fav fighter since 2003, also alot of other peoples… he is greatness what the hell have you done for the sport cronos lol

  66. Avatar of priderulez

    priderulez

    June 1, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Rashad is not that much stupid to think that put shogun down is the best option.. just one way to see Rashad winning this fight, maybe in another life born again with better skills…

    i would put the ground of shogun in a top 5 fighters in the world, you just have no idea about what u said!!!

    anyways.. as me u’re here to learn more about this great sport..

    MISS PRIDE SOOOO MUCHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

  67. Avatar of Ultraxl

    Ultraxl

    June 1, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    Just MMA Ignorance , Shogun was not even considered in the top rankings by most of you until he beat Macida wich means that you guys dont know MMA.

    Difference in styles and to much difference in speed and power. Machida could have just as easily won the fight against shogun and then Shogun would be considered a weak fighter again.

    Remember it takes only 1 punch in the sport of MMA thats why these polls are not considered by the top sites that do these kinds of polls.

  68. Avatar of Ultraxl

    Ultraxl

    June 1, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    you seriously dont know MMA. When Evans beats shogun please stop posting on these forums.

  69. Avatar of priderulez

    priderulez

    June 4, 2010 at 12:00 am

    if this happen i give you my word that i will cancel my account here and stop coment in ANY blog of MMA!!!

    PRIDE BEST EVER HAD!!!!

  70. Avatar of priderulez

    priderulez

    June 4, 2010 at 12:11 am

    MMA IGNORANCE starting with YOU to not put in YOUR top ranking SHOGUN
    …as he need to be at some stupid ranking for we know what he can do..

    whatever i just dont understand why the hell i care about your stupid coment..

    PRIDEEEEE THE BESTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  71. Avatar of lopresti1

    lopresti1

    July 12, 2010 at 6:52 am

    rashad by lay n pray n pussyjitsu lol

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