The Psychology of Trash Talk: Fear, Strategy or Hatred?

It seems that there has been an amping up of trash talk as of late in the MMA world.  From Frank Mir’s unprecedented, and apparent sincere, death comments to Chael Sonnen’s relentless diatribe against Anderson Silva, one has to wonder whether such statements are born out of actual contempt, fear or simple strategy.

Talking trash to one’s opponent is nothing new to sports.  Babe Ruth did it in the 1932 World Series when he told pitcher Charlie Root, “I’m going to knock the next pitch down your goddamned throat.”  Michael Jordan did it in the NBA, football linemen make it a habit in the NFL and, of course, Mohammad Ali mastered the skill throughout his career. 

Ali did it with a wink and a nod and he is a good example of a smart trash talker; someone who does it not out of emotion but for strategy.  His goal was to get into his opponents head and it often worked.  Before his 1972 bout with Joe Frazier, Ali did not confine his trash talk to media appearances; he would show up at Frazier’s training sessions and outside his hotel in Manila, publicly derided Frazier by calling him all kinds of names (ugly, flat nosed, etc.).  Most agree that such tauntings “worked” in the sense that they got under Frazier’s skin, however, the jury is still out as to what affect it had on Frazier’s actual performance.  In the MMA world, Dan Hardy seems to be a master at strategy-based trash talk and he makes no secret of this.  The affects on his opponents, like Marcus Davis, are obvious.  Chael Sonnen is another fighter that seemingly uses trash talk for an end-game.  Lately, his repeated comments about the current middle weight champ are accomplishing their purpose for Sonnen: Hype and gossip about a potential match-up and about Sonnen himself; something that barely existed before his rantings.

As for pure hatred being the catalyst for trash talk, the boxing community has a rich treasure trove of examples.  During the early 1900s, Jack Johnson became the first black world heavyweight champion (1908-1915).  This outraged many white, racist, Americans not comfortable with a black champ. This prompted former heavyweight Jack J. Jeffries to come out of retirement in 1910 to challenge the champ stating, “I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a Negro”. 

Today, hatred-based trash talk is often motivated by personal reasons, like humiliation. No one disputes the fact that Brock Lesnar’s resounding defeat of Frank Mir, coupled with his own trash talk after the bout, sparked deep seeded emotions in Mir. Mir’s now infamous death comment was preceded by a statement that belies this notion when he said, “I hate who he is as a person.” Such a comment, said with what appears to be sincerity, is a perfect example of hatred based trash talk.

Finally there is fear. Shakespeare said it best: “Methinks the [fighter] doth protest too much.”  Often, in life and in nature, it’s the one who beats his chest the most who is the most afraid of a conflict. 

And then there are James Toney latest rants towards UFC president Dana White, er, never mind; not even Sigmund Freud could figure that one out.


21 Comments

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    Daniel Cassidy

    February 28, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    fantastic article man

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    Madnessstill

    March 1, 2010 at 1:33 am

    Anderson silva is the new jack johnson?

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    pranabowjake

    March 1, 2010 at 1:36 am

    james tooney….oof

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    UrHype

    March 1, 2010 at 1:58 am

    No, Im white and happen to like Silva. If he starts being a racist like KingMo, then I probably wont care for him. So far Amderson has never said he root for the black guy in the cage simply because of race, as KingMo has already said.
    I root for good fighters, if they act like a douche, I wont root for them.

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    UrHype

    March 1, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Ali will never be matched in boxing IMO he was just plain awesome in the ring.

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    ClosetCasey

    March 1, 2010 at 3:49 am

    Can you check for polyps while you’re up there?

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    DirtyBox

    March 1, 2010 at 10:26 am

    so you dont root for yourself obviously.

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    som3dud3

    March 1, 2010 at 11:19 am

    really good article.

    when i read the title, before i even read the actual article, hardy and mir came to mind immediately – just as u stated. but i couldnt think if someone who trash talks out of fear, though i know that’s a possibility.

    who can u think of that does it due to being afraid??

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    Lowkickdodger

    March 1, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    Bisping trashtalking Hendo was scared deepdown im sure.

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    MereDictum

    March 1, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    I have a few in mind but did not want to stir a pot.

    I should have given an example of the non-trash talker; someone who gives an honest assessment of his chances. That would be Frankie Edgar- that guy seems very well grounded.

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    ScottishLad

    March 1, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Agree with you 100% there, i seem to remember Bisping stating he would ‘outwrestle’ Dan too………..when you watch his hype video for that fight it’s cringe-worthy lol

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    UnderdogGreatness

    March 1, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Good job! good article

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    Madnessstill

    March 1, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Wonder if people would say marciano was better and use the tired arguments they’d use for Fedor? ( ie:omg the record!)
    What’s with the double standard? That’s why i said silva was the new jack johnson, people just come out of the woodwork to hate on him and it’s usually the same kinds of people using arguments that don’t make sense

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    UrHype

    March 1, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    why are you hungry again?
    Oh nevermind, this is your reaction to others taking the time to do something your not capable of doing….my bad

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    UrHype

    March 1, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    I believe your still harping on an issue about people south of my border causeing harm to the USA on a previous thread, as I attempted to breakthrough ignorance and explain ANYONE who comes to our country and refuses to intigrate properly will cause harm, it didnt matter if they were a white colony south of us or a Mexican colony. or green or ruprple people. It was the fact that a group doenst give back what they take. So see if you can find something credible to piss and moan about moron…..dirtybox…go get a douche and cleanup while your at it.

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    UrHype

    March 1, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    I was simply discrediting your implied base on racism today thats all.
    The world is moving forward and people cant say anything without getting tagged a racist as others have attempted to say about myself, no double standard, just my opinion about Ali, I just think he was a great boxer…..move on

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    ClosetCasey

    March 2, 2010 at 5:03 am

    No one gives a shit. Why don’t you go watch Lou Dobbs or something you ass fu ck.

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    ClosetCasey

    March 2, 2010 at 5:05 am

    I’m not saying you’re racist, I’m just saying you’re a douche nozzle.

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    UrHype

    March 2, 2010 at 7:01 am

    Lucky your mom doesnt put you and your dirty mouth back in the closet.

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    UrHype

    March 2, 2010 at 10:20 am

    pathetic you click funny on your own replies, we know who the douche is and who knows a douche actually has a nozzle?
    Enough said you little clown.

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