Rashad Evans says he’s "frustrated" from waiting to fight Shogun Rua

“It’s just frustrating. I am a fighter and I need to make a living doing this, but at the same time it’s about getting that gold. But if the gold is something that I’m not going to get an opportunity to fight for then I have to face that possibility and move forward and do some other things. If I don’t get the chance to fight for the belt, I will never ask to fight for this belt again. I will never want to fight for that belt again. If they say that I can fight so-and-so for the interim title


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    japanegro23

    November 7, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    All very bad matchups for Rashad haha. I hope he gets Rua. I think he has the best chance against him but I would hope Shogun beats him and Rashad falls way down the ladder.

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    Joey Santosus

    November 7, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Either one of those, as long as it is for contention… The guy has earned it.

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    griffin

    November 7, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    All the interim title would do is postpone stanky leg part 2 for a couple of months

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    Jizzle11

    November 7, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    You guys should read danas response lol he wasn’t very happy

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    Rigo

    November 7, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    They should make an Interim Title , Shogun has been out since May
    also i dont know why Rashad is getting Shogun .

    He lost to Machida then comes back and wins over Thiago Silva who is not even Ranked at top 10, by Decision while almost getting KO in the 3rd.
    Then wins over Rampage with another decision and again almost getting KO.

    It seems that LnP is getting reward , at least Rampage wants to entertain the fans while fighting, but Rashad just wants to win at all coast , even at the fans entertainment , we need to stop supporting
    this or fighters will just outwrestle others and LnP on them

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    Rigo

    November 7, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    It seems that LnP is getting reward , at least Rampage wants to entertain the fans while fighting, but Rashad just wants to win at
    all COST, even at the fans entertainment , we need to stop supporting
    this or fighters will just outwrestle others and LnP on them.

    or we wont have nothing to watch anymore , after all we are the ones paying , so making the fights entertain while displaying their skills
    should be #1 priority to the fighters

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    JiuJitsuBBQ

    November 7, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Evans deserves the shot. And I do think Rua has been out too long. I don’t think Rampage wants to entertain the fans though. I think he wants a paycheck because Hollywood is not that interested anymore. If you watch interviews with him about this Machida fight, the man seems uninspired. I don’t think he has his head in the game anymore. I think we might see Machida destroy him. Which is sad, I really like Rampage. But Evans deserves the shot, and as a fan, I am getting sick of the LHW division being in limbo like this.

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    movich

    November 7, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    exactly what i was thinking.

    rashad is whining sounding like he thinks the ufc owes him another shot at the title.

    but like you said, he was ko’d and then two (unimpressive) decision victories.

    do an interim championship against the bader/jones winner and the winner of that gets shogun.

    you could say loser of bader/jones gets loser of rampage/machida and if machida wins, hopefully he’ll get a top guy as well.

    i’d say machida in the mix for interim, but he just lost as well and i feel you need more than 1 win to be back in the ball game, unless it was a controversial decision like in machida/rua 1.

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    WingChun

    November 7, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    @ JS

    I think it’s unacceptable to go this long without a title defense, particularly with a champ who has medical issues; ones which could just as easily re-appear and at any time, as a result of simply training.

    I like Shogun and picked him in his fights, but enough is enough. To go one year without a title defense is unfair to the division, the brand and the fans.

    And I’d say the same thing about GSP – he beat Hardy in March and doesn’t / won’t defend again until December. That is just too long to go without The Champ being required to defend his title. IMO – a champ should have a title defense every five or six months.

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    WingChun

    November 7, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    My solution to this problem – we need classifications for injuries to fighters who “hold belts”.

    Class A: Broken arm, broken, cracked or bruised ribs, strep throat, flu etc. would be classified as injuries that will heel within a proscribed period of time and one’s that have a low probability rate of re-injury or re-occurrence.

    Class B: Injuries to ligaments (particularly knee), catastrophic illness (Lesnar’s diverticulitus, for example) or anything that might lay a fighter up for an unspecified period of time or where the assessment of the situation cannot be made within a reasonable time frame or where after a period of rehab, there still remains or would remain, a high / significant probability that the fighter could re-injure or re-occur, with the “same” issue.

    In this instance – Rua would have been categorized as class “B” and an interim belt would have been held.

    Interesting question – how do you classify a title holder who can’t / doesn’t defend his belt for 9 months, because he’s a coach on a TV show?

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    Stiks

    November 7, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Wasn’t it Rashad who made the decision to wait for Rua in the first place?

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    Ninja

    November 7, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Evans is the one who decided to wait for Rua…he said this long lay off will give him time to improve him skills and now hes crying because Shogun is taking so long which he knew from the beginning he would, only reason he didn’t ask for an interm title is cause he knows he would lose to Machida again and prolly won’t get another title shot for a while after that

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    Ninja

    November 7, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Everyone knew that Shogun was going to be out for the rest of the year…it’s up to the UFC to decided whether or not they want an interm title so it’s not Shoguns fault, Evans could have easily asked for an interm title if he really wanted to but he didn’t and as for GSP only reason he didn’t defend the title earlier is because of TUF, they have to wait till its done before having the coaches fight

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    Rafaelroberto840

    November 7, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    It’s probably too late for a interm title all the top 10 5 guys are fighting already

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    WingChun

    November 7, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    @ Ninja

    Everyone is aware of why GSP has not defended his title. The point is, what is The Champ (any champ) doing ****ing around on a TV show. That should be what contenders, X champs, the top coaches etc. do, but not something the best P4P fighter in the world and 170 champ does; not if it keeps him from defending his title. Change the format, re-jig the shooting schedule and how the show if filmed…whatever…but find a solution, because it’s not right. They have a whole division waiting around waiting on the outcome of this bout.

    That was my point about GSP; not that he wouldn’t or can’t defend it. And not that he won’t do it successfully; he will kill Koscheck.

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    Dabs

    November 7, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Actually, they initially thought Shogun could fight by March latest so June would be quite an extension…

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    Ninja

    November 7, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Well it’s not really up to GSP…it’s up to Dana White and the UFC, they decide when the fighter should fight and when he shouldn’t…I think it’s a good thing having a long break every now and then because now Shields is already number one contender and then possible Jon Fitch and Condit, it gives time for the division to find the best fighter to face the champ

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    japanegro23

    November 8, 2010 at 1:43 am

    I agree with WingChun. I hate that it takes so long for all the champs to defend. It seemed like BJ was the only guy that ever fought when he had the belt.

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    DR3W

    November 8, 2010 at 1:45 am

    I dont think so. Machida vs Rampage is in a couple weeks ans the winner of that should fight rashad for the interm belt. Both good rematches

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    japanegro23

    November 8, 2010 at 1:46 am

    I agree with you Rigo. I didn’t think he deserved a shot but some people thinks he does. I just hate that he is refusing to fight til Shogun gets back. If he is deserving of the shot, he would beat anyone they put him up against right?

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    falcon4917

    November 8, 2010 at 2:36 am

    Thats kinda why I don’t think champs should be in TUF. They need to be available not marketing themselves. One champ defends 2 or 3 times a year and another once while promoting themselves? It’s unfair to the would be hopefuls looking for the belt and also to other champs that are unequally defending their status and marketability.

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    falcon4917

    November 8, 2010 at 2:36 am

    SHARP

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    falcon4917

    November 8, 2010 at 2:39 am

    Umm? They don’t have to accept the TUF show. They can respectfuly decline. But yes Dana and the UFC will undoubtedly put fame over game in most situations.

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    falcon4917

    November 8, 2010 at 2:41 am

    It’s funny how AS defended his belt twice in the first half of this year and if injury was not a factor he would be doing it again and yet I feel like it’s been a while.lol.

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    falcon4917

    November 8, 2010 at 2:57 am

    VERY SHARP

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    japanegro23

    November 8, 2010 at 3:56 am

    Yea I guess it seems like a good business idea falcon but as a fan, I want to see the champs fight more. I’m greedy I know. I feel the same way about AS too haha.

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    drunkslug

    November 8, 2010 at 4:29 am

    I’m not a fan of interim belts but the downtime that Rashad is facing is way too long. He could have fought at least twice in that time. I really don’t care who he fights seeing as how the division is pretty stacked and the list of potential opponents is an extremely decent one.

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    garry_blackbelt

    November 8, 2010 at 4:51 am

    rashad thinks the dragon dropped him! when rashad meets sho gun! he will wish he was fighting sum 1 eles~!

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    MMALurker

    November 8, 2010 at 4:59 am

    The interim should be against Machida because they (Evans and Machida) were the last two to have the belt before Rua.

    I guess in all fairness, Rua deserves at least a year from his last defense before we see an interim for the title.

    Really I would imagine UFC has (or should have) policy regarding UFC champions, injuries, time off, and required defending of the title.

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    MMALurker

    November 8, 2010 at 5:12 am

    I dont know about the classification thing. Seems to open to interpretation.

    Dont champions just need to defend the title once a year. I think the Sanctioning bodies dictate the time between fights a fighter must take off and protect fighters whom dont want to fight very frequently. some champions have 2-3 defenses in a year but most are just 1-2. if part of that time away from defending is due to injury that not the UFCs concern. But it is after it exceeds a fighters regular prep time (4-12 months?).

    The UFC just needs a policy to allow for interims to be held at that point that stipulate that the injured fighter be granted a title shot once he is healthy again. I dont really see why anyone would be opposed to that because an interim isnt a loss for the champ. It would be his option to defend in a certain amount of time and if he cannot an interim be held. In a sense he will get to defend his claim to title hold once his health is back

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    MMALurker

    November 8, 2010 at 5:13 am

    ninja’d that very sharp from wingchun

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    Osnizzle

    November 8, 2010 at 5:30 am

    TUF season put GSP out the mix til December…its called marketing

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    GeorgeRuetiger

    November 8, 2010 at 5:32 am

    Machida can not be given the interim title shot immediately simply because he is coming out of a long layoff directly off a devastating knockout loss, let alone one to the Champ.

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    Osnizzle

    November 8, 2010 at 5:42 am

    Rashad is scared. he only waited for shogun cuz he knows his chances of even getting another title shot would take a while if he loses. even if he becomes champ hes gonna have to fight everyone else in line so why not fight someone in the meantime while Shogun is out.

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    colktfo

    November 8, 2010 at 5:50 am

    so 16-0 doesnt seem anything to u? fyi that was the best male MMA record before may

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    japanegro23

    November 8, 2010 at 6:12 am

    Exactly. Scared is right. Rashad is a good fighter which is why this confuses me.

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    bluntsandbeers

    November 8, 2010 at 6:37 am

    @ Wing Chun

    i sort of agree. except for the fact you said they have to devend his title every five or six months. thats pretty black and white dont you think? a champion should only defend his belt when there is a worth challenger because thats the whole point of the belt in the first place

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    movich

    November 8, 2010 at 8:33 am

    lhw division is a toss up
    everyone has a loss to someone, and no one is rightly justified in deserving a title shot

    forrest > shogun > lyoto > rashad > forrest > rampage

    they should have rashad vs the winner of rampage/machida for the interim title.

    and have the winner of bader/jones vs the winner of griffin/franklin for the next #1 contender.

    likewise, losers of each fight can square off against each other as well.

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    Kuroshimaru

    November 8, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    rashad is garbage, every one he has beaten is either out of his prime or just didnt have the basic skills to counter him, the only good fighter on my mind that he fought recently that only lost to him because he laid and prayed on top of him was thiago after that chuck,rampage etc out of their prime.

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    Osnizzle

    November 8, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    rampage>chuck>tito>???

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    Kuroshimaru

    November 8, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    oh almost forgot , all of them tested his chin and the result were positive on bitcheroid usage . Even machida.

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    TheRealDeal

    November 8, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    The answer is simple. It is time for an interim championship fight since Rua can’t defend his belt, and winner gets Rua when he is better.

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    Joey Santosus

    November 8, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    I agree 100% and as far as “only defending when there is a worthy challenger,” what does that even mean? Its a sport… There is always someone who is next in line, period. The long lay-offs are frustrating and thats why I do not blame Rashad for saying screw that and waiting… Yea he is starting to get restless, but what people do not understand when they say he is the one that chose to wait is that when he said he would wait the expected return date was earlier than it is now… That date keeps getting pushed back further and further. If it was any other division than maybe I would feel like Evans needs to get in there, but its not… Its the LHW division, which is stacked. There is no shortage of talent there, they do not need Rashad in order to put together meaningful fights. Not to mention that there is a ton of talent in that division. If something were to go wrong and Rashad was to get Fitch’ed out of a title shot, it could be a long road and a lot of tough battles before he gets back. Besides, there are many many fighters who take much longer lay-offs and wait much longer than Evans has and no one says a thing. Its just mma fans doing what mma fans do…

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    Ninja

    November 8, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    I just read it, lol so Evans didn’t want to put his “brand” in jeopardy when he was offered to fight in sept and now hes crying tht Shoguns taking so long…he needs to man up and go wit his original decision of waiting

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    MMALurker

    November 8, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    I agree rashads over rated. I dont think hes really been tested by top talent (chuck and rampage didnt fight well). That being said hes had some very entertaining fights. I kinda think all this LNP talk is premature except for a few fights hes usually swinging for the fences.

    People on here are so quick to base their views on a fighter from just one fight…

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    MMALurker

    November 9, 2010 at 12:51 am

    I just feel the last to holders of the belt are most deserving of it. Especially in this case where they were in line for title shots anyways.

    Personally I think its silly you say Lyota shouldnt get an interim shot because hes coming off a lose. It was a loss again the current holder and he beat the guy only months before.

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    WingChun

    November 9, 2010 at 8:56 am

    @ MMALurker

    Giving the champ a title shot when he comes back (healthy) is implied / assumed; it’s a given.

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    WingChun

    November 9, 2010 at 9:18 am

    @ JS

    Agreed – what does worthy mean?. Was Matt Serra really worthy of a title shot? Particularly when GSP came back and laid a full MMA show and knee beating on the man. Yet, none-the-less, that loopy right of Serra’s took out The Champ and superior fighter / athlete.

    And if you look at any of the divisions, would any of us argue that there’s only one or two worthy / reputable fighters per division? Not. GSP, for example, is going to have his hands full with the likes of Shields, Condit, Sanchez, Kampann, Fitch and yes, Koscheck. He will not be taking any of those fights lightly; nor should he.

    I stick by my original contention – The Champs job is to defend the title, not be on a TV show and he should do it (anywhere) between two to three times a year; assuming he is healthy.

    Cheers,

    Wing Chun

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    WingChun

    November 9, 2010 at 9:29 am

    @ Blunts

    Do you not think there are worthy challengers for GSP or any champ? I don’t know that a lot of people thought Frankie Edgar was a worthy opponent for BJ Penn and they were wrong; twice. The UFC is rife with talent; finding a The Champ a decent opponent is and never will be a problem.

    The Champs job is to defend the title; as often as is possible – IMO.

    And yes Blunts, it is that black and white; at least to me.

    Cheers brother,

    Wing Chun

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    WingChun

    November 9, 2010 at 9:34 am

    @ JS

    And your point about the return date for Shogun is spot on. The date has been pushed back. So, the date RE agreed to wait for is no longer; it’s been shifted.

    I do think though, regardless of the merit of his case, he should just suck it up. However, getting back to the point, given what’s going on with Shogun, doing a TUF 205 show with RE as one of the coaches would have been a good way to kill time.

    Cheers,

    Wing Chun

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    GeorgeRuetiger

    November 11, 2010 at 1:25 am

    If he beats Rampage then I definitely agree, fast track to the title for sure because I do hold his record in very high prestige, the Dragon is one of my favourite fighters and certainly one of the most skilled fighters of all time, and of course, recent Champion.

    I’m just saying without a convincing win between the title loss and another shot at glory, it doesn’t make any sense. That was the huge criticism of Brett Rogers getting the title shot in Strikeforce. He had his ass ripped wide open by Fedor only to come back his next fight for a shot at the gold. It was stupid, and it’s a stupid idea no matter who the challenger is.

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