Brock Lesnar unlimited: submits Shane Carwin in the Second Round

Brock Lesnar managed to weather the early storm and submit Shane “The Engineer” Carwin via a second round Arm Triangle. Carwin managed to rock Brock Lesnar early on with a vicious upper cut, which was followed by a Ground and Pound onslaught. Despite being in a biggest trouble of his career, bloodied Lesnar survived and took Shane Carwin out of the first round.

Shane Carwin got surprisingly tired in the Second Round, allowing Lesnar to take him to the ground and work his way into a full mount. As soon as Lesnar was in the full mount, the Champion looked for a surprising submission attempt. Lesnar quickly locked an Arm Triangle choke, that left Shane Carwin no other choice but tap out.

By defeating Shane Carwin, Brock Lesnar ended a tiresome journey from being almost not allowed competing in MMA again, to defending his UFC Heavyweight title. Lesnar’s post-fight comments were quite different than the one he had after the fight against Frank Mir at UFC 100, showing a lot of respect to the effort put by Shane Carwin.

Brock Lesnar will square off against the much smaller Cain Velasquez in his next title defense, in what would be another step to cleaning up a UFC Heavyweight division. Many see Velasquez as David fighting Goliath, as his fight against Lesnar is expected to be at least as epic.



  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/SavOnDeck/ SavOnDeck

    I knew he was gonna win

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Khmerkickboxing/ khmerkickboxing

    dammit…

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/BigNog22/ BigNog22

    WOW Lesnar got lucky that Like all we thought carwin has no cardio,centrally to cain,go win for lesnar,buy cain gonna give him a round for his money.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/S4m1k/ s4m1k

    haha brock is really trying to make a humble image of himself, good fight either way. I hope cain takes him though

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Rane/ Rane

    BIG PROPS TO LESNAR!! YOU ARE A TRUE WARRIOR! A TESTAMENT TO YOUR CHIN!!! YOU GOT MY MAD RESPECTS!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Awesome battle; Lesnar is the undisputed champ!!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Samigeh/ samigeh

    Didn’t want Brock to win, but damn he survived an onslaught in the beginning. Props to Lesnar.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Rane/ Rane

    Lesnar got lucky? What was luck you dummy, it was an arm triangle choke!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Rigo/ Rigo

    i know Lesnae won , but didnt felt like a win at all , people were quiet , no screams or excitement , but Lesnar took it man!

    he gain some respect more from the after fight in my eyes! he seem humble i guess he learn his lesson!

    its going to be interesting to see Cain vs Brock and see if the weight will be a factor

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Oopsmadeyatap123/ Oopsmadeyatap123

    I was watching it and didnt believe it. Congrats to Carwin. Great, humble interview afterwards. Best of luck to Carwin in the future. Next between Lesnar and Carwin Carwin better work on his cardio or he will not win. I hope he fights the winner of jds and nelson winner of that fight getting the Cain V. Brock winner.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Rane/ Rane

    I never doubted Lesnar… He is the HW king in the UFC.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/UnderdogGreatness/ UnderdogGreatness

    Brock Lesnar by sub, who saw that coming? I know I didn’t.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/BigNog22/ BigNog22

    Carwin is a 1rounder, he will go far if he doesn’t have cardio.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/HipHopMMA/ HipHopMMA

    and he dropped it with expert skill.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Shooter/ Shooter

    Brock is the man :)

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Lowkickdodger/ Lowkickdodger

    Lesnar is a survivor, tough sob indeed but Carwin with Cardio and pacing is the future champ for sure. Carwin has better hands and good takedown defense. Brock is just a freak. I guess fighting with bears in the mountains helps.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/SavOnDeck/ SavOnDeck

    Brock can’t fight he is scared to get hit he can take hits tho I kept telling people if he takes carwin to the ground it’s over but if he can’t he’ll get ko’d

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/UnderdogGreatness/ UnderdogGreatness

    Brock Jitsu 101

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mmauk/ mmauk

    WOW how did Brock survive the 1st round, the fight went exactly how I expected apart from Brock be able to take shot’s from Carwin. i said before fight that if Brock can take Carwins power then Cain Velasquez has got a big task ahead of him and after seeing Brock taking that beating and looking pretty fresh in the 2nd considering how much damage he took WOW Velasquez has a HUGE task ahead of him. Can’t wait for that one.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/HipHopMMA/ HipHopMMA

    i thought brock was playing it smart. I dont think he ever had brock hurt “hurt” , after watching it again , only a few of those punches got thru.
    brocks cover-up covered his entire head. Excellent fight and well worth the ppv money.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Rochefort/ Rochefort

    Life threatening illnesses do that to ya.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Khmerkickboxing/ khmerkickboxing

    I think CARVIN has cardio…it just that he used it unwisely, while brock was block his ground and pound…..Carvin should of keep the stand up…jab jab…

    Also, if anyone who konw mma, ….you just can’t used up all your engery on the first round…which is just plain stupit

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/FedorsNuts/ FedorsNuts

    Props to Brock’s chin, but how pathetic to see a “contender” who wont last 2 rounds. Carwin looked as bad or worse than Sapp and Pudzianowski and Brock looked like a fish out of water when faced witha equal opponent and could easily have seen the fight stopped with another ref. Not exactly over the moon by any of em.

    *something, something about untested fighters and hype*

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Valkyr/ Valkyr

    Like Bas says, cardio is the most important thing in MMA lol

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/BigNog22/ BigNog22

    agree,after carwin saw the GNP wasn’t working,instead of gasing himself he should have make lesnar stand-up,but he was too excited i guess

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Spyridon/ Spyridon

    People were quiet because they were shocked… who expected a sub from Brock??/

    Also people were jumping up and down crazy right after, production just reguarly messes with the volume in the arena.

    It’s WAY louder in there than you would ever expect

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Lionkill/ lionkill

    this was i think the last thing anyone thought would have won the fight for brock. everyone was correct in saying that carwin was skilled enough to stuff most of brocks takedowns, and also correct in saying that brock couldn’t hang with carwin in the stand up, but know body thought that a submission victory would come from him.

    if brock really works on his submissions, its gonna be a hard battle for anyone to take him on.

    looking forward to carwin v lesnar 2, i have no doubt that carwin is going to mill threw the HW’s he ends up fighting after this and will be getting another shot at the title in 1-2 fights.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Capjo/ capjo

    If that were any other fight, the ref would have stopped it in the first round. Lesnar was doing nothing but covering up while getting his ass handed to him..

    I can understand why the ref allowed it to continue. UFC’s poster boy being tkoed in the first round because of ref calll…ref would be looking at a career like Big John…banished into obscurity. Don’t step on the giants toes ( UFC).

    …too bad Carwin got exhausted and arm-weary.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    Spydron has a point,

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Capjo/ capjo

    lol, ok pal. Only few of those shots got thru? i guess lesnar’s face looks like hamburger because of all those missed shots.

    If that were any other fight, the ref would have stopped it mid first round. Lesnar did nothing but cover up while having his face and head punched the hell in.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Postmortem/ postmortem

    i dont think you can blame carwin for gassing he tried to finish the fight no one could of known that brock could take that kinda punishment as far as his cardio is concerned its just something you have to expect from a 285 pound guy his heart and lungs are the same size as everyone else while they have to work much harder to power that massive body

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Capjo/ capjo

    nice try dipsh*t. Go watch the fight again but this time put your bias aside.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    Brock did get beat up bad lul. But wow his chin if ****in tough as he is built like his upper body.
    Shane kinda did remind me of Pudzian today, I know FedorsNuts already said something simler to that…. He went gunz-a-blazing, then slowed down epicly.
    I thought the ref. would of stopped it, with the blurry screen of my computer while i was watching it, he didn’t look like he was inteligently defending himself,,it was hard to tell with my fuzy computer screen.
    If you say otherwise if he was defending himself and saw a clear image of it, just let me know…..

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/HipHopMMA/ HipHopMMA

    i dont agree with you , yes Brock covered up BUT…. Carwin only actually connected a couple times(in the right place) …unless you call punching someone in the arms getting thier ass handed to them then it def. shoulda been stopped

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mmauk/ mmauk

    Your right 9 times out of 10 that fight get’s stopped. The ref thought about stopping it but Brock was still awake and was covering up the ref was only going to stop if Brock went stiff but he never did.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    Not bad for an MMA newbie champ lol :D

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Ultraxl/ Ultraxl

    DID YOU KNOW HE WAS GONA WIN WHEN THEY ALMOST STOPED THE FIGHT ALSO?

    After Seeing tonights Fight. I Know Either of them can beat FEDOR !!!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/HipHopMMA/ HipHopMMA

    YOU need to watch it again.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    Trying to make a humble image??? Wow you have no idea…

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Ultraxl/ Ultraxl

    cant beat fedor . only carwin has a punchers chance

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    YAH YOU DAH MAN RANE :D

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Ston3pony/ ston3pony

    Yeah. They’re obviously no Fedor. Belt doesn’t mean anything. It’s the joke belt that Fedor might one day fight for that matters.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/HipHopMMA/ HipHopMMA

    Youre the kind of guy i would choke out rather then boot stomp. Then i would bust Rkelly styles and piss on you till you woke up.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Ston3pony/ ston3pony

    A triangle choke? So much for the doofuses who say things like “lay and pray” huh?

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    I did have doubts, until i saw his chin stregnth :D
    My dad hated the fact that the fight wasn’t stopped right away, he wanted Carwin to win and said Lesnar sux. But I don’t care, he won FTW!!!!
    Lol, I told him so :D

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Bluntsandbeers/ bluntsandbeers

    damn so many submissons lmao

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    And in the second round…what 0.0
    Dana I thinking big bucks for his next fight $-$

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Capjo/ capjo

    Listen up keyboard warrior. On your best day and my worst, I would bitch slap the sh*t out of ya. Go go to bed kid, it’s past your bedtime.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Brandonmma2010/ Brandonmma2010

    He was hurt those shots did get in but even if only a few of em got in it still would of hurt him cuz Carwin is so powerful

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    Technique is 2nd.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    Is*

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/S4m1k/ s4m1k

    haha sorry for hurting your feelings buddy

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/HipHopMMA/ HipHopMMA

    I would go to bed but your mom and sister are hoggin the Blankets.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Ultraxl/ Ultraxl

    FEDOR IS WAY TO FAST MORE POWERFULL .

    Judgin from tonights performances I thougth that brock would probably beat FEDOR but now I Know they cant. ALLISTAR OVEREEM would rape both of em

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Capjo/ capjo

    just what a thought, another teenaged carrot cracking, wack-off artist. get out of fanatsy land kid and go get laid.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    Brocks is only going to get better and he’ll show every up, especially Fedor.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    **everyone up**
    sorry for the double post

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    Brock somewhat fought back, he did curl into a ball at times but then started kicking out, so i guess he did defend himself just not intelligently.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    first of all Fedor will never hit as hard as Shane, so that being said ill take my chances with Lesnar over Fedor. Im not saying Brock is more skilled than Fedor, but Brock will win by overpowering Fedor though.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/FedorsNuts/ FedorsNuts

    No, they don’t have to be Fedor, but you would expect the defending champion to be able to work from the ground and avoid getting hit by a punch or two – they were both stuck to the ground and neither “moved like a welterweight”, Brock moved more like a 265 lbs punching bag. Equally – you expect the contender to last 2 rounds if it’s not a freak show like Sylvia vs. Pudzianowski or Nog vs. Sapp. But maybe that’s just me though?

    There are some thing that impressed me like Carwin’s power and Brock’s chin and submission (who knew?), but all in all I’m underwhelmed and it has just as much to do with Fedor as it does with JDS, Cain and Overeem – all of which I feel are heads and shoulders above this performance at the moment. If that had been Cain or Overeem on top of Brock landing punches at will, then what?

    But who knows? The sub showed promise and he’s obviously evolving rapidly in a very impressive fashion, so he might get his shit together for Cain. There should at least be some sense of urgency in the Brock camp with the senseless beating Carwin put on him in the first round and with the knowledge that Cain isn’t going to let off for at least 3 full rounds.

    That’s just my opinion though. No reason to be crude about it.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    If Brock can survive Carwins onslaught, then he can take Fedors punches.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    wasn’t luck, Brock has a steal chin i guess, and choked him out with pure force.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/HATEOCRACY/ HATEOCRACY

    You talk’n bout fat dude that got tapped by other dude who couldn’t hack it in the UFC.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/BigNog22/ BigNog22

    dana almost shit in his pants in the 1rd, he’s biggest draw was getting destroyed.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/SHAKEZULA/ SHAKEZULA

    fedor LOST by submission…..so now that we kno that brock has subs then maybe fedor can kiss his ass

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/B1gbenitez/ b1gbenitez

    WTF I thought Shane had jj ur suppose to turn with him ****N SHIT

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/SHAKEZULA/ SHAKEZULA

    Brock showed his chin. Carwin has power in both hands and he landed them many times. But brock lived threw it and ended up finishing him with a sub. Wow brock was good at what he knos how to do.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/B1gbenitez/ b1gbenitez

    WTF people stop talkin about fedor that guy sucks he’s way overrated I mean a triangle come on people realy need to stop talkin about that guy I bet Roy Nelson will ko his ass

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Franeck/ Franeck

    What a joke that fight was… 2 Fat guys without good skills and gas, and on top of that the sub was really badly applied!!!!
    Can’t wait to see the normal HW like JDS or Val. wining the belt

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Jackthedrinker89/ jackthedrinker89

    EVERYONE THAT THALT BROCK WAS GUNA LOSE YOU CAN NOW PULL THE FOUR KITTENS AND THE BABY OUT OF YOUR PANTS THAT YOU SHIT AFTER LESNAR LOCKED IN THAT SUBMISSION, HES ****IN LEGIT AND IF YOU DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE NOW YOU SHOULD OR EITHER GO CREAM YOUR JEANS NEXT TIME FEDOR FIGHTS OR IF YOUR NOT A FAIR WEATHER FAN PULL FOR CARWIN WHEN HE MAKES IT BACK UP THEN MAYBE HELL LEARN SOME DIVISION 1 WRESTLING!!!!!!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/FedorsNuts/ FedorsNuts

    My tv was crystal clear and Brock turtled up. Normally he would have lost the fight.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/NikMegamanHulstein/ NikMegamanHulstein

    You got it all wrong sire

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    its true he turtles up but then started kicking so technically he was defending.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Conan/ Conan

    I agree that both Brock and Cain cannot beat Cain or Fedor. Carwin lasted only first round and it was over. Brock was about to gas out. But Brock has a good chin. Shane was tired as hell. Personally, I don’t see them competing against faster and more cardio guys like JDS, Fedor or Cain. All they need to do is to dance around just like Anderson Silva for 1 round and finish them in the second. Carwin was just like that polish guy Marius Podzuski. As much as I wanted Carwin to win, but I don’t see him being a top competition for Fedor or Overeem. No wonder, they tried to escape Cain as much as they could by putting Mir against Carwin.
    Congratulations to Brock! He impressed me with his chin!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Conan/ Conan

    I think Cain should have no problems. Brock won because Shane gased out.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    Even if that was Cain or Overeem punching him from above, it still wouldn’t mean jack. It looked like Carwin was landing most of the shots from above, and Carwin is twice as strong as Cain. So that being said, Cain or Overeem being on top wouldnt change my mind about the performance Shane or Brock.

    I see Brock beating both Cain and Overeem because of his great wrestling ability. Although Brock had difficulty taking Shane down, Shane is a NCAA division 2 champion. Cain or Overeem does not have the same wrestling credential as Carwin does. Once Brock does take them to the ground it will be all over; he out pointed Mir easily on the ground. I’m also guessing Cain isn’t as good as Mir off his back either, but Overeem maybe though.

    Just my opinion on tonights performance and overall.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    ^^
    It is also my actual opinion. I dont want the last part of my comment to be mistaking as sarcasm.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Ston3pony/ ston3pony

    Fedor… Hrm… Name sounds familiar…

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Conan/ Conan

    Brock took down Shane because Shane got very tired. I don’t see that happining with Cain, JDS, Fedor and Overeem. Dana White knew that and he did not give Cain this fight earlier and kept Mir and Shane. Brock and Shane have to run 15 mile everyday if they want to beat Cain. All Cain needs to do is do dance around 3 rounds and see if they fall without touching them.
    This fight put everything together. Brock had a good chin and no gas, Shane has not gas. It looked exactly like the fight between Tim Silvia and Marius Pudzyawski.
    I had some doubts before that Fedor would have problems with Brock, but now not at all. Those guys need to run 20 km first before talking about Fedor or Cain.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/BlueClearSky/ BlueClearSky

    I expected Carwin to win ,but i credited Lesnar tougher than everyone
    expect it n the first round sucked up those bombs and a nice submitted as well . I have to congrat the man with hard work paid off.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    also agree, rushing to finsh will get you no where. Look at what happened to Carwin and Fedor.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Madnessstill/ Madnessstill

    Whaaaaaaaaaat i cant remember the last time iw as this hype for a fight, maybe the early 2000′s

    just about everyone hating on brock. Before he fought anyone they’re hating. When he loses they hate, when he wins they hate…the world was hating him tonight, they’re surprised he’s not nice to them?

    Screaming for him to pull through the most trouble i’ve seen a heavyweight in since the glory days of boxing, can’t really criticize a damn thing now. Haha the look on shanes face after the first round was like : WTF!?!?!? How is he still here?!? He’s like a piece of IIIIIIIIIRRNNNNN

    The thing is that Brock represented the underdog in this fight, not the badguy. He was on his deathbed and people are hating on him, just trying to make a living and people are hating on him. Now…just watch the ex-fedor nuthuggers jump on his tip as long as he keeps winning?

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/UndefeatedOfWest/ UndefeatedOfWest

    You said Carwin is twice as strong as Cain, but do you think Carwin is twice as strong as Overeem?

    Don’t forget overeem has ko power in elbows, hands, feet, and knees. Carwin only had ko in his hands. It is also safe to say overeem is way better technically on the stand up.

    Overeem wrestling definitely is the worst out of brock, cain, carwin and his bjj is not good as mir, but he has a vicious Guillotine Choke. I mean, if you get in that mutha ****er your not getting out.

    With all that said, I would still be picking brock for the win unless overeem proves something to me…

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    Funniest thing ever. You two (capjo and HipHopMMA) are arguing at each other when you both basically agree to the same thing, except for the ass handed part. You both say it should be stopped, so why argue? LOL

    And to note i dont think it should have been stopped. You can say im wrong but it will just end up being controversial, like everything else.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Madnessstill/ Madnessstill

    I thought it would be stopped cos shane was getting the best possible ground and pound shots on him, but lesnar never went limp. Shots straight to the face wouldn’t knock him out, but they’ll make him want to quit, and i was screaming for him to think about all the haters and pull through.\

    then shane just started hitting his arms cos he got tired. no such thing as cardio, throwing your hardest shots constantly for a minute straight should tire ANYONE out, so lets stop using that as an excuse

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Madnessstill/ Madnessstill

    yea that was awesome, that’s real sportmanship right there

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Madnessstill/ Madnessstill

    Carwin is nothing like mariusz. Carwin gassed from giving 110% trying to knock the guy out. Saying he sucks for gas is like saying George foreman sucks because he punched himself out on ali.

    ANYONE can punch themselves out, especially when it’s your strongest possible punches and you’re throwing like it’s gonna be the last one you need. Marius on the other hand gassed from just walking around, and he never showed any kind of power or talent anywhere even when he was fresh.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Japanegro23/ japanegro23

    Hahaha. The comments make me laugh.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    yes i do think Carwin is twice as strong as Overeem, not saying Overeem doesnt have power or anything. And what if Carwin were to smash an elbow from the ground, im pretty sure it will crush someone. Overeem is dangerous, but i see it ending up like the Mir fight. brock will take him down and pound him, and im pretty sure Brock will survive the chokes.

    Why he will survive the chokes you may ask, well one thing for sure Mir wasn’t able to sink one in on him so im guessing Overeem wont be able to either. Second Brock maybe just be able to break that choke with force, and third Brock has yet to not controll someone from the top.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Japanegro23/ japanegro23

    I’m getting a kick out of this too.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Michl/ michl

    props to brock but i was watching that first round again…and again… and again… and again

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/TheMMAfan/ TheMMAfan

    I like that you expressed your opinions, and I agree someonewhat, but Cain actualy has better wrestling credentials then carwin, he’s a divion 1 ncaa nation finalist. He’s not only that but amazing and fast on his feet. Should give brock a great run aswell

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    One way to find out, and that is the next Brock fight. I see this fight the same way as Mir fight.

    Oh and what part of the fight did Brock look gassed? was it when he was rocked and survived? because to me when you’re rocked, you dont get to see someones cardio when you’re defending.

    Or was he gassed when he took Carwin down in second round? Because that also did not display any lack of cardio.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    Well i did not know that Cain was a NCAA, but still Carwin is a much bigger person with more muscle then Cain. Its going to take a lot more work for Cain to stop his takedowns. I do agree that it will give Brock a run for his money.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Falcon4917/ falcon4917

    The Ref kindly held out for brock when he wasn’t intelligently defending himself and that saved brock. If Carwin had more cardio or saved some energy we all saw what trouble he can bring Brock. In a rematch I choose Carwin again.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Ston3pony/ ston3pony

    He was taking everything on the arms. Little damage other than the elbows which cut him but didn’t daze him. And Brock stood up by himself. Obviously he didn’t need to be protected, he stood up because he wasn’t hurt.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Falcon4917/ falcon4917

    Compare to brendans fight where it was given about 3 seconds even though he was covering up.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Pyronaut/ Pyronaut

    Yeah but if Carwin couldn’t knock out Lesnar, then there Velasquez is going to have a tough task. He pounded both Rothwell and Kongo for what seemed like an eternity and couldn’t get the job done. Albeit his striking on the feet looked alot better against Nog. I don’t think anyone would doubt that Carwin has heavier hands than Velasquez.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/AJY/ AJY

    I watched that first round a few times as well, theres something fascinating about seeing a 260+ pound monster curled up in the fetal poition getting pummeled. Damn Carwin was so close to ending that fight quick. Props to Herb Dean for not stopping it early, props to lesner for being resilient and fighting through it.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Blfan/ blfan

    brocks a beast he can take a beating and to come back and win bye sub in the second round nice just wish people would stop crying about it not getting stopped in the first round from what i saw brock was able to int defend him self the hole time which he proved when he got back to his feet after taking the beating he did and whats up with this fedor guy i watch a few of his fights and from what ive seen brock would have him all he would have to do is take him down and do some gp and that would be the end of it

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Falcon4917/ falcon4917

    If Carwin had the same amount of gas as Lesnar he would have made a second round victory. All Carwin needs is Cardio or to save some for a next round and he will handily beat Brock.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Falcon4917/ falcon4917

    Carwin had him rocked quite badly though and maybe he never quite got his full connection and punch in this fight.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    TBH I was unimpressed with Brocks win. Shane gassed out. If Shane had better cardio he would have won. It is as simple as that.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    I guarantee Fujita hit as hard as Carwin.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    Cain could potentially keep Lesner there and win a decision like he did to Kongo. If Overeem fought Lesner he would pick him apart from tha outside or get GNPd.

    @Fedorsnuts. I agree 100%. That was a sad display. I would go further though and say that if Carwin hadn’t gassed, Lesner would have never gotten that sub. The fight actually showed Carwin to be the superior fighter. He needs better cardio.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    I sharped you but all that running wouldn’t do anything. It is the wrong kind of cardio. They both need to do five five minute rounds of intense anaerobic exercise with one minute between rounds every other day on top of their martial art training.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Joey-Santosus/ Joey Santosus

    Bottom line is, a TKO is supposed to be when a guy is NOT unconscious, but so out of it that he might as well be, making it so he is unable to defend himself. Therefore, the fact that Lesnar got back up on his own before the bell AND came back to win, that in itself automatically proves that a TKO would have been a bad call….

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    BS. He took about 75% of that on the face. He only started taking it on the arms when Carwin started to slow down toward the end. Lesner got raped and then beat a guy who was totally gassed out (regardless of why he was gassed, he was gassed).

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    I am actually less impressed with both of them. Lesner showed once again that his wrestling ability is hype and that he has no stand up what so ever. Carwin showed that if you can weather the storm, ala Bob Sapp, you can get him in the second.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    I wouldn’t have guessed it but it is pretty easy to submit a guy when he is exhausted.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    Listen, cover up the way Brock was and I’ll hit you with a sledge hammer. How does that feel? Um, dude? Are you okay? (backs out of room slowly)

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    1 No You do

    2No You do

    1Nuh uh, you do

    2 NO, YOU DO

    1 You’re a doodie head.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    He would never get that on a fresh opponent. This fight showed more holes in Lesner’s game not less. Unfortunately it also confirmed a big hole in Carwins game.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    Shane was exhausted. I don’t think we can judge his JJ by last night.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    I agree with the sentiment but it shouldn’t deter you from following the fighters. Just do it on line.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    I’ll keep backing Fedor. These two might have a chance against him on their luckiest day but they both have WAY bigger holes in their games than he does in his.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    Yeah, it would have been lame if it got stopped.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    You need to watch more of Fedor’s fights and train a bit before making that conclusion. There is a reason why the best MMA fighters, including the guy that just beat him think he is the best fighter of all time. I’ve been training in the martial arts my for a long time and I have to say, last night convinced me that these guys are second rate. The only thing that gets them by is size and that won’t take them past the best.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    Stuttered. I was going to write “my whole life” and decided to write “for a long time” since I took about 7 years off completely.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    Stuttered. I was going to write “my whole life” and decided to write “for a long time” since I took about 7 years off completely.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/MMAW/ MMAW

    Learned a couple of things in this fight:
    Carwin has the cardio of Bob Sapp
    Lesnar turtles up like Bob Sapp

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/RabbitPuncher/ RabbitPuncher

    They better not do a f#cking rematch, thats all i gotta say.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/MMAW/ MMAW

    Carwin will work himself back up to a title shot, just has to train at pacing himself, he will learn from this loss.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    Meaning that if you weather Carwin’s storm.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/IChokePeople/ IChokePeople

    It would also be a good idea for him to make Lesner stand up next time. He has a much better chance of a KO if they are standing up.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Pdc666666/ pdc666666

    They should really be in separate weight classes. I think fedor’s as good as u can get for his weight. Brock only has to get on top of someone once – and it’s fightover – it must be scary for anyone who fights him now as we now know he can take a few breeze blocks to the face and then once he’s got you down you might as well start squeeling like a pig and get out of there ;-)

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Falcon4917/ falcon4917

    Lesnar kicked away twice whle being mahandled for 2 1/2 minutes. For most of the time he was laying and waiting for the nightmare to end.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Falcon4917/ falcon4917

    Carwin will kick his ass in a rematch because he will be ready for a Dana pleasing ref. The ref is usualy good but he woud ormally have stoped that in the first

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mokoko/ mokoko

    Fedor send to the flor 400 lb guy with one punch.Carwin and Lesnar booght gona be punching bag for Fedor

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mokoko/ mokoko

    Arlovski was the best striker and one punch went to sleep. Rogers got more Ko’s than Carwin and JDS one punch to the flor are you wrealy think any one can punch harder than Fedor it took Overeem 15 shots to finish Rogers

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    I watched it in HD and Lesnar blocks about 90% of those shots while on his back. I count 6 shots hitting targeted head in slo-mo. Lesnar was defending the whole time and near the end of the first manages to get off his back.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Lesnar defends off his back intelligently. The term is used for a cognitive ability to defend oneself which Lesnar did quite well.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Madnessstill/ Madnessstill

    Herb dean wasnt the ref.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Just like to add that the power and technique he showed in the choke was great!!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Cain will lose; he doesn’t have the power or accuracy in his hands that Carwin has. Lesnar won because he has HEART! He gutted it out in the first when Carwin gave him the best he had to offer.
    Cain won’t make it out of the first round with Lesnar, end of story.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Watched it HD and 90% of the shots Carwin threw while Brock was on his back are blocked. His face would have looked like hamburger if 90% landed you clown.
    Referee saw that fact and let the fight continue; In slo-mo I don’t see one punch land on Lesnar’s chin; nor his eyes roll back; nor his hands drop.
    Go back to watching strikejoke you clown and leave the real mma to the men.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Watch it and pay attention fool.
    Lesnar blocks 90% of Carwin’s desperation punches/elbows

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    So many clowns so little time to tweak their noses

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Lesnar was defending as well as can be expected under the circumstances.
    The referee saw this and allowed the fight to continue.
    Lesnar has huge heart, and heart will win the day in every besieged situation.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    take Carwin’s nuts outta your mouth long enough to see the fight

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    When the hell are you supposed to judge Carwin’s JJ if not in a title fight?!
    So many clowns so little time to tweak their noses.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    Go back to watching strikejoke you clown.
    You have no idea what the hell you are witnessing.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    being a ball sucker is not training in the Martial Arts you clown

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    mokoko you must be ichokepeople’s inbred son cause you are such a clown just like him
    ball suckers

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Japanegro23/ japanegro23

    To the people above and below, ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS!!! No one knew who would win. NO ONE!!! Most people on this site, like me, didn’t have the balls to commit either way and say who was going to win. Some wusses didn’t even throw a name out there because if their boy lost, they didn’t want it put in their faces. Some people said Brocks going to win unless Shane blah blah blah or Shane’s going to win unless Brock blah blah blah. And the very few, AND I MEAN VERY FEW, people who took Brock without a doubt (on this site), knew you had a little doubt at home and especially when Brock was running from Shane’s barrage. So….. the moral of this comment is Brock fans shut up because your mouths are so much bigger now after the fact which is super lame and Brock haters need to hush because you have no leg to stand on. I have stated many times on this site how much I can’t stand Brock but the guy deserved the win. He didn’t crumble and that should be respected.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mokoko/ mokoko

    im 34 how old are you im probably your fathers age

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/S4m1k/ s4m1k

    yeah i worded my comments poorly last night, way to much weed, and after seeing such an entertaining fight i was acting silly.

    But at the same time i cant believe brock did so poorly on the stand up, talk abut huge holes in his game. Atleast he can cover the holes with those huge ape arms of his. I’d imagine if they fought again carwin will come out on top. I hope when cain fights him hes able to stuff his take down attempts, if so it might be another pretty amazing fight!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/UndefeatedOfWest/ UndefeatedOfWest

    Last Paragraph, are you really trying to say mir has a better Guillotine Choke than reem? Yes overall sub/bjj abilities he is better than reem, but Reem has proven time and time again once you get into that guillotine choke your chances of getting out is very little. Reem does it with perfect technique as well.

    Reem would be able to sink it in, much stronger and bigger than mir. I think reem and carwin are about the same in strength, but the guy has only proven he has ko in his fists and that is it. Brock is going to go to sleep like kongo did when he fought mir if he tries to just “he-man” his way out of it. But I’ll assume brock knows the proper tech to get out…

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mons/ mons

    how do you know that? It’s like saying if Rogers didn’t put his hands down, he would have won because he was beating fedor in the 1st rd.

    For everyone who keeps saying it the ref stopped the fight, he wouldn’t have won, then stop watching MMA because that is exactly what the sport is about. You weather a storm and then come back. Why would you stop it at that point. I don’t understand it. In boxing, they would even let you stand up and take another beating over and over until you cannot stand anymore!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mons/ mons

    Totally agree! You just have to give props to Brock for taking those punches and not sleeping. I guarantee that if it was another HW in there with Shane’s punches, they would be in a stretcher!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mons/ mons

    Can’t you tell a difference between a fighter who punches himself out because of 30 power punches because he is actually trying to end the fight against a fighter who just gasses out for nothing like Sapp and Pudz? Crazy comparison.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mons/ mons

    Rogers has more KO’s than Carwin??? Rogers has 1 less fight that Carwin you moron!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/AJY/ AJY

    yea just realized it wasnt herb, oh well good work by rosenthal

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Mindkontrolle/ mindkontrolle

    that is basically what you are worth, the smegma from a homeless f*ck’s uncircumcised c*ck

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Joey-Santosus/ Joey Santosus

    Yea and what people are missing is that Carwin and others have said that the ref was also talking to Brock, all the while Brock was consciously responding and declining when asked if he was done…

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    I dont think Overeem is stronger than Carwin, and are you going to deny that if Carwin elbows someone one the ground it isnt going to do much? because to me elbows dont take a whole lot of skill to do.

    Even if Overeem can sink a better guillotine than Mir, what about it? I have yet to see Brock take someone to the ground and give his opponent an opening for a sub, except the first fight with Mir when he STOOD up. So what makes you so sure Overeem will get the guillotine choke?

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    can’t believe there are idiots who weak a factual comment.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    carwin although landing a few only got one relatively clean shot through. a little patience and variety in his work and he’d have destroyed brock but he swung til he couldnt swing no more.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    real mma. lmao. one trick pony versus one trick pony. brock flinched and cowed backwards after one hit. so much for real men. fedor looks to finish no matter how hard or how many times he is hit. that real mma for ya.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    didnt even hook brocks leg to keep guard. very poor. his power in his hands will win him many fights but cardio and zero off back cost him this one and will cost him more if he dont improve

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    i agree exactly thats what i do. last night proved they both way overrated. brock is lucky not to be 4 – 2 right now. that said both showed major holes that other hw’s will be licking thier lips over exploiting. that belt will not reside with brock for long. DW make ya money out of him while ya can, he is about as skilled as sylvia was.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    many noobs only see brocks size and are in awe. they dont realise fedor been whooping bigger and better guys than brock for years.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Sactownsgreatest/ sactownsgreatest

    Brock Lesnar was getting hammered by Carwin in the first round and second round Carwin gassed and Lesnar took advantage, me and know one else i think predicted a submission from Lesnar. This fight is great because this fight was like Lesnar vs Mir 1, i respect Lesnar’s attitude after the fight saying he was happy the ref did not stop the fight in the first round.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/UndefeatedOfWest/ UndefeatedOfWest

    If you watch mma, you’ll notice everytime someone goes in for a takedown they’ll leave them self open for a guillotine choke. You can do chokes while standing, so it doesn’t have to hit the ground.

    Yes, I am going to deny carwin has ko power in his legs, knees, and elbows just because he has never shown/prove it. Once he does, then I will give him credit for it. I’m not saying it won’t do much, but I don’t see him ko anybody with it.

    If you read 2nd to last post of mine it will answer your last question. Anyways, it would be a very interesting fight between them. Unless some new fights come up changing my opinion, I’m picking brock to win it.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/ShoNinja/ ShoNinja

    While it is very possible to get a guillotine standing up, it is still an unlikely situation that it will happen.

    I never said he has power in his kicks or knee, but as for his elbow it will most likely k.o. someone. Just because he never demonstrated an elbow doesnt mean he cant k.o. nobody with it. The unexpected can always happen in mma. And a perfect example of my logic is Brock pulling a sub on Carwin. Who would have thought Brock can pull subs until yesterday? nobody, thats who. Because you don’t see someone do something, doesnt mean they cant. If you never knew Brock could pull a sub, you would probably have assumed Brock will never be able to pull a sub just because you never seen it.

    Dont assume the impossible just because you never seen it done by them.

    and which post 2nd to the last of yours? you have 2.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/DELETE-ME/ DELETE ME

    Fights have been stopped in the UFC way earlier during ground and pound.
    Lesnar was not intelligelly defending himself…but that ref wouldn’t have pulled the plug even if Lesnar was unconscious… it is about protecting their “investment”.

    So many holes in Brocks game for Velasquez to capitalize upon. Plus he won’t gas out.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Rane/ Rane

    Dude, you are pretty IGNORANT if you are saying Werdum couldn’t hack it in the UFC, He was not fired because he lost to Dos Santos, he basically was not getting what he deserved and the UFC chose not to re-new his contract. Don’t believe all the BS Dana says on those interviews. Dana contradicts himself all the time. Werdum is a two time World Jiu-Jitsu Champion at ADCC (Abu Dhabi Combat Club). This is a tournament where the baddest grapplers on the planet compete. He is no joke and for you to discredit him for submitting Fedor is ridiculous!

    Everybody looses in the sport of MMA. Fedor finally looses after a 28 win streak and all you are good for is hating instead of taking a look at all of his accomplishments. He is a legend man. One of the best! Fedor is a world Sambo Champion.

    Bottom line… Stop HATING!

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Rane/ Rane

    Shane Carwin reminds me of George Forman.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    capjo, is that how you fight? with bitchslaps? LMAO

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    How long did it take for Brock to realise carwin had zero defense zero energy and couldn’t even be bothered to hook his leg? It was similar to a triangle on a pythagoras theorem, not exactly hard was it.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    wake up and smell the BS DW has covered you in. No wonder you have smeg in your title. Choke is right. 2nd rate is exactly what everyone witnessed saturday, but because 1 fighter came back from nearly losing and they both meatheads many ill educated mma fans dribble from orifices at the sight.

    When I 1st put a detailed breakdown of what i saw saturday i got about 40 weaks straight off the bat, but now there’s more threads and more similar opinion getting 20+ sharps for the same points i made yesterday early on.

    Fact remains Brock and carwin both came up very short in one way or another. Sure Fedor was sloppy against Werdum, but 1st time in 8 years he ever been beat and has proven his skill many times. Carwin and Lesnar are in the process of writing their own legacies in mma nad both done a crap job of it saturday night.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    Dude you sound like you have issues with homeless uncircumcised ****s. Did you get smegma’d too?

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Azzkika/ azzkika

    the one bonus i take from the ref allowing it to carry on is that should Brock ever meet fedor in UFC, Brock will get totally pulverised before the ref jumped in.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    azzkika;
    the correct spelling of your moniker is ASSLICKER.
    You and mokoko should have a spell off with the winner continuing to gargle Fedor’s nuts.

  • http://lowkickmma.com/members/Smegmatosser/ Smegmatosser

    stop getting your mommy to google wikipedia for you so you don’t sound like such a douche.